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ID request?? (non-actives)
    #7564173 - 10/26/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I'm still pretty new to this, and I still don't have a good field guide so I'm just trying to figure out what these are! Any help greatly appreciated!! I'm not very good with terminology yet so please correct me if I'm wrong! There are three different species though.

#1 - Possibly amanita franchettii?? Not sure.



Habitat: It was right next to a creek, in some soil mixed with various tree debris.

Gills: White, I think they are what you would call "free" but I can't tell the difference between gill types based on pictures that I've seen, so...I'm not sure.

Stem: Whitish, thick, not fragile, membranous annulus present.

Cap: light brown, to dark brown in the middle, broadly convex, with white/grayish speckles on top that flake off when touched.

Spore print color: Bright white

Bruising: No color change was observed.

Location: Humboldt county, california

#2 - Someone suggested these could be "false chanterelles"





Habitat: Growing near a fallen tree, growing amoung weeds and grasses near dead tree.

Gills: Uhh, Decurrent? Subdecurrent? very thin around the edges of the cap, light orange.

Stem: dark brown/orangish. Easily breaks.

Cap: bright orange/light brown, to deep brown in the center. Uplifted, umbilicate.

Sporeprint: Unsure. I only spore-printed one, and it seemed to come out whitish to a yellowy off-white, but that could be because a roommate picked it up and moved all my mushrooms around while I was waiting for the spores to drop.

Bruising: None that I noticed

Location: Same, Humboldt.

#3 - No clue, found under white plum tree.







Habitat: Growing in clusters underneath our white plum tree, sort of in a ring around the tree, but with small concentrations of shrooms growing tightly together, the caps are all smooshed and cramped together, some growing separately. Also, some are almost completely under the grass and leaves with just the top of their white/brownish caps exposed.

Gills: free (i think), white/pinkish gills, close spacing. Not visible in younger ones.

Stem: thick, white, notice the tiny mushroom growing off of the bigger ones stem in the first pic?

Cap: young: parabolic, with what I believe is a "cortinate partial veil"---you can't even see the underside of the cap in young specimens, as the cap is tightly curved back to the stem. In older specimens, the cap is convex-broadly convex (except the ones that are growing all smooshed together tend to keep that parabolic type shape). They are white, with the older ones showing brown browning from the center that fades toward the edges and has cracks. Some of the caps had yellow spots on the sides, not sure if this is just stuff from outside getting on them or what though...

Sporeprint: in progress...

Bruising: none.

Location: Humboldt, Cali

Hopefully that was specific enough!

Thanks for any help!


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Re: ID request?? (non-actives) [Re: massromantic]
    #7564181 - 10/26/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The amanita looks like a panther cap to me, hallucinagenic when cooked/dryed.


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Re: ID request?? (non-actives) [Re: haymaker]
    #7564202 - 10/26/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Wouldnt really suggest eating Amanitas though... really not good for your liver apparently, also can kinda give you muscle spasms and that.


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Re: ID request?? (non-actives) [Re: Tomo]
    #7564214 - 10/26/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

top one could be amanita pantherina, but it might not be...
personally, i wouldnt eat it even if it was a panther cap :nonono:


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Re: ID request?? (non-actives) [Re: Tomo]
    #7564257 - 10/26/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

nice id request and good pictures
the firt one really resemble amanita pantherina but more close up of the volva are required.
2 may be a false chanterelle hygrophoropsis aurantiaca is also edible but i´m not sure spore priny should be whiteis also edible


3 is an agaricus maybe a no edible one i see few yellow bruising in the cap


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Re: ID request?? (non-actives) [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7564258 - 10/26/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, that baseal structure looks rather indistinct more than the most tentative and provisional placement, as amanitas are concerned. Even where it to be A. pantherina, this species is still dangerously toxic and should not be experimented with willy nilly.


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Re: ID request?? (non-actives) [Re: canid]
    #7564565 - 10/26/07 08:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

As cactu noted, number 2 looks to be a false chanterelle. I heard it's considered edible, but not recommended. I found some the other day and the smell put me off any notion of consumption.

As was stated above, number 3 is some type of Agaricus. Yellow-staining is a bad sign as far as edibility goes. The yellow-staining Agaricus I find around these parts (A. xanthodermus) have a foul chemical smell (chlorine?) and are considered poisonous.

- forgot to mention that smell and bruising/staining is important in identifying Agaricus - and many others. Crush the base of the stem and observe any staining or scent.


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Re: ID request?? (non-actives) [Re: canid]
    #7564574 - 10/26/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: ID request?? (non-actives) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7564627 - 10/26/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:cool:


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Re: ID request?? (non-actives) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7564636 - 10/26/07 08:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
1) Amanita, and not the edible kind
2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygrophoropsis_aurantiaca
3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agaricus_xanthodermus




thats what i would have said :P


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Re: ID request?? (non-actives) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7564747 - 10/26/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

that was real easy , easy to id  mushrooms, nice pictures and a good description , i want a hard one , ha ha
will be good to make id contest, some  put a strange mushrooms or a bunch of then  and the one that give a correct id well get all the credit ,  will be good , we all learn  the poster learn ,and every single one of us, even we are wrong , who dares..........
sorry massromantic  if sound like corrupting your thread  but you post good picture and good description perhaps  you should star this  but we all have to be prepared , to be a fear contest,ha ha .:hotidea:.


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Re: ID request?? (non-actives) [Re: cactu]
    #7564786 - 10/26/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Haha.  Great idea!  I'd definitely watch that.  :lol:

Can we bet on this? :sunny:


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Re: ID request?? (non-actives) [Re: scout24]
    #7564811 - 10/26/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

we sure do that the most fun part,
i was thinking to be a fare contest , a person will have to stat the contest by tell all the participant that in about a period of time led say a half hour picture will, be posted, so this give time to people that like to get into the contest post in the same thread saying i´m in i will wait for it, no more post allowed until the contest end , only for entering the contest , then a few minutes after the original poster will post the pictures it will said get ready , then go post the pictures, and rock and roll , ,i see that to do this will have to need good pictures good description, ha ha what you guys think is a crazy idea i think it could be lot and lot of fun , maybe we can bet in the treat to don´t know , is impossible is understud what i say haha
come on ...


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