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casing question
    #7564051 - 10/26/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ok so if you had a jar of rye that was fully colonized and you planned on adding it to some poo/straw and then casing would you let the rye/poo/straw colonize fully in an incubator before adding the casing layer and putting it in the fruiting chamber? Or would you combine the rye/poo/straw and then add the casing layer and then incubate? I know I've read about this 800 times before and I've been searching for like 3 hours, but I keep getting distracted by pictorials and I can't figure out when to add the casing layer. Please help. I've been a member for years and I hardly post because I can usually find my answers without cluttering up the board. Thanks in advance.


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Re: casing question [Re: PhdHater]
    #7564153 - 10/26/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I would let the bulk substrate (colonized grain, poo, straw) fully
colonize, but NOT in an incubator. no way.

I'd set it out on a wire shelf at room temperature.
bulk substrates produce plenty of their own heat for colonization.

I personally would let the substrate fully colonize and form hyphal
knots. Only then would I apply casing, not before. I add casing
after the knots form, but before primordia form. You gotta watch
it and get just right. if you wait too long you could damage the
forming primordia.

but you could do as many here do and let the mycelium colonize
your casing layer by adding it as soon as the substrate surface colonizes.

or you can just skip the whole casing layer thing all together if
you wish. cubes don't need a casing to grow.


but I think your question was just to add it before or after the
substrate colonizes... and the answer is after. no matter what
path you choose, it's applied after.


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Re: casing question [Re: monstermitch]
    #7564335 - 10/26/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

awesome thanks for the response. So if I just let it colonize at room temperature should I cover it with plastic wrap? I have done cakes tons of times but this is my first casing attempt. I am very pleased with rye. It is much cleaner and colinized way faster than cakes ever have for me.


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Re: casing question [Re: PhdHater]
    #7564578 - 10/26/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well, you have options.
as you do at every step in this hobby.

if you cover it with plastic wrap, you will be in effect tightly
covering it, holding all of the air in.
therefore I recommend for you to poke a few holes in the
plastic wrap and cover them with micropore tape. that way
the substrate will have the gas exchange provisions it needs.

you don't have to use plastic wrap though.
some folks just crinkle up aluminium foil and kind of flatten it
back out again, then cover the substrate with it and loosely crimp
it around the edges.
the looseness of the crimping will provide for gas exchange.


I use the plastic wrap, holes, micropore over the holes method myself.

oh, and if you use plastic wrap, it's best to run some masking tape
around the edges to hold the plastic wrap securely in place.


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