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cube talk
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I encourage you
#7563128 - 10/26/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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To try cyanescans if you haven't yet. I found their effects much more pleasing then that of the cubes.
And for those dumbasses that have said psilocin is psilocin. Well isn't thc thc? So in that instance if i smoke crippy thc and then smoke a reg thc blunt, i should be just as high off of either right? Wrong... same shit goes for psylocibin.
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Re: I encourage you [Re: cube talk]
#7563151 - 10/26/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well unlike shrooms marijuana has over 400 different cannibinoids each with different effex shrooms have like 3 so ya lol
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Re: I encourage you [Re: cube talk]
#7563152 - 10/26/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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There is no such thing as "crappy" THC. It's a molecule. It will always be the exact same molecule. The same goes for psilocin and psilocybin. they are just molecules, and they will always be identical to other molecules of the same chemical.
The only difference is the concentration they are in. "crappy thc" as you call it is just shitty weed. It didn't produce much of the good stuff, the actual THC. Also, there are lots of other cannabinoids that may change the drug's interaction with the brain. Shrooms are the same way. The amount of active chemical varies greatly from fruit to fruit in a multispore grow. Again, there are other compounds in mushrooms that possibly affect the trip, though we don't know enough about how these chemicals actually affect us to say for certain.
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Re: I encourage you [Re: cube talk]
#7563153 - 10/26/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well unlike shrooms marijuana has over 400 different cannibinoids each with different effex shrooms have 3 2 of which are basically the same
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Re: I encourage you [Re: cube talk]
#7563157 - 10/26/07 12:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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For the record, pot has hundreds of various cannibinoids. THC is the predominant one, but pot has fluctuating levels of other substances. Mushrooms only have 4, most of which are lost in drying except Psilocybin.
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Re: I encourage you [Re: cube talk]
#7563160 - 10/26/07 12:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Actualy you are only half correct.
psilocybin is psilocybin and thc is thc?
HOWEVER there are OTHER alkiloids that have other effects. psilocybin and thc are only the MOST active alkaloids in mushrooms and pot respectively.
so those that say psilocybin is psilocybin , are correct, the effects of pure psilocybin will always be the same no matter what the source.
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Re: I encourage you [Re: cube talk]
#7563164 - 10/26/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, i think the reason better weed gets you higher is because of a higher concentration of THC as opposed to other, less liked, cannabinoids.
cyan's are still made up of the same chemical alkaloids as cubensis just more of them perhaps a higher percentage of psilocin, which as you know is what the body breaks psilocybin down into
but still.. cyan's..
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WOW !!!!!!
RAPE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that was all posted in the same 3 minute time span...
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Re: I encourage you [Re: Slimz]
#7563291 - 10/26/07 01:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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dood indicas like kush will put u 2 fucking sleep sativas like trainwrek or sour diesel will make u hyper like a mofo weed can be super different i dont thnk shrooms have the same range as weed, the variance is way larger in da herbbbbbb
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Re: I encourage you [Re: Coaster]
#7563313 - 10/26/07 01:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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try pan cyans
edit:ive eaten a few diff psilo speces and not found much diffrerence. its all set,setting and dosage man...
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Re: I encourage you [Re: 2859558484]
#7563326 - 10/26/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
wowitch17 said: try pan cyans
edit:ive eaten a few diff psilo speces and not found much diffrerence. its all set,setting and dosage man...
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Re: I encourage you [Re: Slimz]
#7563381 - 10/26/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I tried fresh pan cyans and noticed a real difference from ALL cube trips of my life. But with dried pan cyans, there was less difference.
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Re: I encourage you [Re: cube talk]
#7563454 - 10/26/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
cube talk said:
take a foolish stand on something likewise if you not a clue what your talking about.
Well thats just pleasingly ironic.
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To the best of our knowledge at this point, the effects of psilocybin mushrooms are for all intents and purposes entirely dependent upon the amount of psiloc/yb/in in the mushroom. In fairness there are other alkaloids present in smaller and minute quantities, such as nor/baeocystin, whose specific, individual psychoactive effects--if any--are unknown.
The effects of marijuana are not simply a function of the concentration of THC, though THC is of course responsible for most of them. It's true there are over 400 cannabanoids in marijuana, though only about a half-dozen are known to produce psychoactive effects. More specifically, there is cannabidiol (CBD) which is converted to THC as the plant reaches maturity--after which the THC is converted to cannabinol (CBN). Apparently, the ratio of THC to these other cannabanoids helps determine the quality and nature of the high, with the main variable being sedation (or "couch-lock" ). My understanding is that a higher percentage of CBN produces more sedation and stoneyness.
So until we discover if the non-psiloc/yb/in alkaloids found in psilocybin mushrooms produce or add unique psychoactive effects we have to go with what we know, which is that psilocybe species differ from each other only in terms of their potency. None of these mushrooms are more visual, euphoric, or psychedelic than any other when taken at the same equivalent dose. Such effects depend on the individual and the given environment and certainly do vary quite a bit even under seemingly identical circumstances. Hopefully we'll come to know as much about shrooms as about pot in the next decade or so.
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Re: I encourage you [Re: Land_Crab]
#7566775 - 10/27/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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ya. cyans do pradunce a more drippy trip for me
but like everyone one sayed lol
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Re: I encourage you [Re: notapillow]
#7566811 - 10/27/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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cyans are meant to contain more psilocin than psilocybin, so there is a difference, however psilocin is meant to break down more.
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Re: I encourage you [Re: Skeeblix]
#7567258 - 10/27/07 04:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Skeeblix said: There is no such thing as "crappy" THC.
i guess i'll correct this, he said crippy thc.
crippy is a slang term, mostly used in florida, it means headies, or high quality herb.
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Re: I encourage you [Re: john706]
#7567296 - 10/27/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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as in bloods and crips?
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Re: I encourage you [Re: haymaker]
#7567307 - 10/27/07 05:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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someone should ask cactu
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cube talk
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Re: I encourage you [Re: 2859558484]
#7567490 - 10/27/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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no lol
I guess it's a form of hydro
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Re: I encourage you [Re: cube talk]
#7568387 - 10/28/07 12:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol people like to make up words so they can pawn off their "killer" weed on you.. Unless you know the guy who grew it, and knew he was honest enough to tell you what strain he was growing, than you really dont know.. And yeah it is a florida expression to call Good Kindbud "crip" or some shit... I think its stupid, but we all have our own terms. Its just Fluffy nugget kindbud, or mids, or shit. Thats it =} I've also heard people from Texas call it Crip. I call it WEED, Ganja, MJ, Dank, Bobmarley.. Mostly to be codish, and not so blatant.. Not to pretend my weed's better than it really is..
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Re: I encourage you [Re: cube talk]
#7568541 - 10/28/07 01:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So everyone here agrees that different shrooms have basically the same effects? That it's mostly down to set and setting?
Well you're all mean because you're screwing with this poor guy's set ...He clearly expects to have a more pleasing trip on cyanescans so let him be
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Re: I encourage you [Re: Yosefxp]
#7568953 - 10/28/07 07:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i guess, there is a difference between cyanescens, cubensis, semilanceata, azurescens etc. different concentrations of psilocybin, psilocin, baeocystin, nor-baeocystin and whatever is to be found in the mushrooms (i guess, these are the only compounds, but i don't know it) as for the cubensis vs cubensis debate, i guess there are MINOR differences it makes sense, that certain cubensis strains are a little bit more potent than other ones, but there shouldn't be a difference in the nature of the effects like "more visual", "more bodyload", "more mindfuck", "more lethargic", "more energetic", i think THAT is largely down to set and setting
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Re: I encourage you [Re: cube talk]
#7569356 - 10/28/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I am gonna agree. I don't deny that there could be a minimal difference between strains of shrroms, but really man, I have had completely different feeling trips off the same amount of the same exact batch, so tell me how you can accurately tell the difference between strains? You can't. trips are affected by hundreds of variables and every aspect of the trip can change based on these.
So I want everyone to stop saying, "Oh my god you have to try this strain" after they try it once and have a good trip, or even if they take it ten times and have ten good trips, if you go in with the mindset that this strain gives you a good trip then your probably gonna have a good trip. But it isn't the mushroom it is your state of mind.
Just think about the nature of tripping for a minute and then if you still think that you could even tell if there is a difference between strains then whatever, believe whatever you want but the idea that someone would attribute a different feeling trip to something that has the same chemicals (albeit different levels of them) to the thing they tripped off last week seems ridiculous to me considering the breadth of experiences you can get off those chemicals just by changing very small aspects of your set and setting. Not to mention that placebo effects are extremely powerful with psychedelics.
just my 2 cents.
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^ Thats a lot of truth right there.
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