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    #7562676 - 10/26/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

mmm...I found some A. Muscaria but I don't know the dried dosage for a trip...anybody know. Also are there methods of dosing that I should know about or some warnings that I should have? Any info is appreciated.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: PsykoticRetod]
    #7562694 - 10/26/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

From what ive heard a.muscaria is different from person to person.Im sure you start small and get an idea how theyre going to affect you,then you work from ther the next time.Dont eat to much,being delerious is not fun!


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: avidpicker]
    #7562862 - 10/26/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

go read the thread from the guy who ate 7 fresh caps the size of his hand, and dont make the same mistake :hehehe:

and please be sure that u have amanita muscaria and not one of its numerous look alikes.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7562955 - 10/26/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, I think that guy ate Amintas.  :runaway:


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    #7563023 - 10/26/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: aminta mustnoteattoomanyia


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7563097 - 10/26/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: avidpicker]
    #7563227 - 10/26/07 12:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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From what ive heard a.muscaria is different from person to person.Im sure you start small and get an idea how theyre going to affect you,then you work from ther the next time.Dont eat to much,being delerious is not fun!




not only is the amount/effects differ from person to person but the amount of alkaloids in the fungus itself will very from person to person, and along with those somewhat psychedelic alkaloids ther is also some disturbing toxins aswell. Be carefull start small and work your way too bigger doses. If you start swetting or cramping up stop immediatly.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: snoot]
    #7563902 - 10/26/07 04:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

how should I eat them? SHould I air dry them? Can I put them in tea? Should I smoke them? What is the most common way to tell that it is the rue fly agaric? I hear the rings at the base are what give it away and I am pretty sure mine have those.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: PsykoticRetod]
    #7563918 - 10/26/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

if you cook amanita muscaria it converts the ibotenic acid into muscimol, which means a much more desirable (and better for your liver) trip.

20 mins on gas mark 3. Baste it regularly to stop the goodness escaping :wink:


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: haymaker]
    #7563932 - 10/26/07 04:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Are you talking about boiling it in water or just frying it? And how much should I eat in grams for just a small trip?


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: PsykoticRetod]
    #7563969 - 10/26/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i was talking about baking it. You can also fry it in oil, but i have no experience or info about time/heat etc.

Well erowid recommends 12g dry for intense, so i'd go for about 2 medium sized caps, cooked. I wouldn't try it raw.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: haymaker]
    #7564005 - 10/26/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Smoking the yellow skin is also very good,it was very relaxing,with a little auditory hallucinations.Thats just my experience.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: avidpicker]
    #7564016 - 10/26/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

red skin is also good to smoke, with some maryjane if you wish :smile:


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: haymaker]
    #7567750 - 10/27/07 07:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Anybody who knows I need help immediately. I am currently cooking some A. Muscaria and I need to know should I wait for them to be cracker dry? I keep basting them and it has been like a half an hour and they are still pretty wet. HELP ME!


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: PsykoticRetod]
    #7567785 - 10/27/07 07:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

basting???

What the hell are you basting them with? And why??

If you were trying to dry them, basting will certainly not help. However, if you intend to eat them soon, then make sure they are fully cooked before consuming- no need to fully dry them.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: CureCat]
    #7567797 - 10/27/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I was told to baste them (which means when they are cooking, take the fluids that come out and put them back on the mushroom to keep the good stuff) I am doing it with a turkey baster. I was also told to wait until they are cracker dry in the oven.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: PsykoticRetod]
    #7568838 - 10/28/07 05:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

basting them with their own juices is apparently the way to go... and yes u should keep them in the oven until they are totally dry.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7569896 - 10/28/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I prefer to dry them at a low heat, so that the outside dries first, holding in the moisture, and dries through slowly. That way you don't have to worry about losing any of the actives.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: CureCat]
    #7570121 - 10/28/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well keep going till theyre dry. if you dont baste you waste most of the active ingredients.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: haymaker]
    #7570329 - 10/28/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

of course u can air dry them, my advice was based on the knowledge that the original posted wanted to oven dry them...

personally i like to hang them on the back of a dehumidifier to dry...


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: haymaker]
    #7570358 - 10/28/07 05:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:smile: Smoking A. Muscaria is ok.. VERY mild hallucinations not really much else to it though. wouldnt go to the trouble again of drying and pealing of the skin to smoke it though.. never tried it with MJ though,which i hear is quite nice. As for eating them.. never tried it. sorry. however probably wouldn't recommend it as it isn't really good for your liver and in large doses will give you muscle cramps/spasms, and also heard it can cause a 'coma like' sleep. doesn't really sound great to me but its an experience i suppose if done right :smile: just make sure they are A. muscaria :thumbup:


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7609002 - 11/07/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well I tried air drying a couple and that ended horribly. So whatever, fuck A. Muscaria. I can't use the oven for mushrooms with my parents around me.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: PsykoticRetod]
    #7611452 - 11/08/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you wanna get your water as close to 190 degrees as possible for 15 minutes or so, that will convert the ibotenic acid into muscimol, the active component in Fly Agaric .
They effect people differently most dont like them some do.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7611460 - 11/08/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

IMHO Amanitas are not much of a trip at all I dont think its really worth it to take them.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7638428 - 11/15/07 06:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The thing about mushrooms or any drug is
they dont have the same reaction for all people..
the experience of yours is personal

As humans its habit to quantify and subjectify things.
But remember.. we are all different.

If you approach it with respect the mushroom can be a great learning tool.

If someone wants to just get high and party
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: PsykoticRetod]
    #7638862 - 11/15/07 10:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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well I tried air drying a couple and that ended horribly. So whatever, fuck A. Muscaria. I can't use the oven for mushrooms with my parents around me.




Kids shouldn't use mushrooms.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: El Zorro]
    #7641269 - 11/15/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I was cooking some soup once and threw a bite sized peace of dryed cap in like 1 min befor the soup was finished. I ate the soup and like 15 min after i finished i started to feel like there was another deminsion and that i could focus in on it and it was real.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: NWDude]
    #7641280 - 11/15/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

amanitas never really gave me a trip either. just made beer taste really really good (better then usual)


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #7642354 - 11/15/07 11:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I tried it this past weekend.  It didn't stay down for very long. :projectile:

I didn't trip.  All I felt was nauseas.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: CureCat]
    #7642419 - 11/15/07 11:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've never had the opportunity to pick my own muscaria, so I am not certain how to dry/prepare them correctly.

I have bought dried ones over the internet before, and my experiences eating them were always quite wonderful actually. I prefer them over psilocybian mushrooms.

The first ounce I had was from a trade I did with hippie3 many years ago, and those were the best I ever had. Then I had a couple other ounces from bouncing bear that worked good. My last purchase from another vendor was basically bunk tho, so you're not aways guaranteed a potent set of caps.

My dosages were always around a quarter ounce dried eaten with a beverage.

Very good experiences for me. Very clensing, very clear thoughts, like an elixer purifying me. Half the time I would eat them I would end up having dreams that night about the muscaria mushrooms, which was very interesting to say the least.

But I guess the majority of mycologists out there would not recommend anyone consuming them, probably because of the overwhelming amount of negative trip reports from them. I guess they just are not for everyone, and the batches are very unpredictable from season to season and region to region, so you never really know what you are going to get or how each individual will react to them.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7642504 - 11/16/07 12:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I guess they just are not for everyone, and the batches are very unpredictable from season to season and region to region, so you never really know what you are going to get or how each individual will react to them.



Exactly.  I definitely have no more interest in experimenting with this species...  It'd be interesting to send you some from North CA to see what your experience is.  :wink:


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: CureCat]
    #7644160 - 11/16/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Kind of you to mention that, but lately I only will eat psychoactives that I find myself in the wild. I don't cultivate anymore because I dont require that many mushrooms, plus all of my cultivation equiptment and research was never given back to me last time I ditched out on a relationship (that person did that to me two times now and i have no urge to replace any of it again).

Also, I don't even ingest Cubensis mushrooms anymore. Its as if that mushroom taught me everything it could, I know them too well, I've experienced every facet of their character and they just dont seem to show me anything new anymore.

Last shroom season I was in Florida I had permission to be on many pastures, and I would just pass up hundreds of Cubes all over the place, kind of jaded and unimpressed by their beauty because Ive seen them a million times already. I would only harvest the Copelandia and subbalteatus, because those shrooms were still teaching me and still show me new parts of their character each time.

I'm always down for trying a psychoactive species I havent tried before or have little experience with because each one has something unique to learn from them. But all together I have no urge to try them unless the shroom spirits decides it is my time to find them in the wild.

Right now I don't have a single shroom to my name, no spore prints, nothing but a pile of books. And i am completely content with that. I've done my fare share already and am in no hurry to experience more.

If you have any California edibles to share now that might be a different story.:)


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7644466 - 11/16/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ggreatone that was a very nice post :smile:

i love hunting.. but i too have very little to my name. like 15g of dried libs to last me through to next season. I might try and find some gyms next year, fancy making some tea.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: haymaker]
    #7645338 - 11/16/07 06:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That sounded like the matrix greatone


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    #7645350 - 11/16/07 06:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That sounded like the matrix greatone


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