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Invisibleniteowl
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Isn't it strange.......
    #7561858 - 10/26/07 05:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have noticed that many parents have no problem letting their kids watch movies with violence in them, but make the kids cover their eyes (or leave the room) if a sexy/nude scene is played.

Does America not get that it is better to make love not war???!!!

Why not let the kids watch the sexy/nude scenes also?

I'm not talking about porn, but movies like 300, that had LOTS of fighting and killing and a few sexy scenes.


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: niteowl]
    #7561866 - 10/26/07 05:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe, if the kids get used to violence, they wont be indulging in it in their adult life, they eventually get bored of it... But if they are taught about sex as th forbidden fruit, it will be better for them, when they finally get to it... So the parents of today subconsciously creating an all sex no war future...


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: Bard]
    #7561884 - 10/26/07 05:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Maybe, if the kids get used to violence, they wont be indulging in it in their adult life, they eventually get bored of it...




Really?
Look at our prison population and re-think your opinion.

Why is there so much violence in todays youth? Because they are used to violence.

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But if they are taught about sex as th forbidden fruit, it will be better for them, when they finally get to it...




Then why do high school (some middle school) kids have so much sex?

You talk about the "forbidden fruit" as if it is something kids wouldn't want.
Temptation is the true original sin. If we tease our children with vague images of sex, they will want to try it too.


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: niteowl]
    #7561898 - 10/26/07 06:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i think violence and sexual activity are hard wired.... the violent, sexy media won't be helping but at the end of the day, we are just animals.

Also it's a population issue. Put too many rats in a cage, what happens?
There is i solution that does not involve violence however. It's simple, every woman has only ONE child... easy.


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #7561925 - 10/26/07 06:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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i think violence and sexual activity are hard wired.... the violent, sexy  media won't be helping but at the end of the day, we are just animals.

Also it's a population issue. Put too many rats in a cage, what happens?
There is i solution that does not involve violence however.




:yesnod:

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It's simple, every woman has only ONE child... easy.




yes! it's fascinating how quickly we could cut our population back if either people chose to only have 1 child (minus the exceptions of twins/triplets, etc) or if we had population control put in place.


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: niteowl]
    #7561929 - 10/26/07 06:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The prison population? As far as I know most of them are political prisoners and they are in because of pot etc. etc. Allright don't know much about it. maybe you are right. I cannot prove my point...

The other arguments... Why do kids have so much sex? Because the forbidden fruit is sweet... That's my point. Maybe my bad english interfered... I wanted to say, that the parent's actually make the kids want sex more by restricting them. So that's why these parents subconsciously make a sex crazed future young... Who will be bored of violence... all sex no war. Of course that's a theory, and I don't know how to prove it.


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: Bard]
    #7561931 - 10/26/07 06:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Of course that's a theory, and I don't know how to prove it




Your "theory" does not reflect todays current events.


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #7561936 - 10/26/07 06:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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i think violence and sexual activity are hard wired.... the violent, sexy media won't be helping but at the end of the day, we are just animals.




Agreed.

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Also it's a population issue. Put too many rats in a cage, what happens?
There is i solution that does not involve violence however. It's simple, every woman has only ONE child... easy.




Then explain why there is violence in small towns? They are not "over populated" yet there is still violence being committed in these small towns.


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: niteowl]
    #7561942 - 10/26/07 06:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

moonshine and nothing else to do but sleep around/start drama...also, intelligence levels could play a role depending on the educational opportunities of said small town


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: niteowl]
    #7561943 - 10/26/07 06:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Our children are taught that violence is OK, and sex is a temptation that they are willing to try.

So they end up doing both.......so why try to hide sexual content from kids in a movie? Most sexual content in movies is non-violent. So let them learn about a normal healthy sex life rather than try to hide it from them.

I don't think this happens in Europe (hiding sexual content) as much as it does in America.


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: niteowl]
    #7562063 - 10/26/07 07:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I too think its pretty stupid that many times society(think family dinner table) says "violence - SURE! Sex - No WAY!"


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: niteowl]
    #7562685 - 10/26/07 11:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

By speaking of Europe the Germans came to my mind, they are censoring violence really hard even in videogames, but they are really open about sexuality. Then the Japanese comes to my mind as the other sexually perverted nation... :smile: These two are hardcore... And they both lost WWII, but before that, they were really warlike people... Interesting...


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: Bard]
    #7563113 - 10/26/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yes!

And you don't see these countries trying to start a war. :bouncysmoke:

America has it all backward :flowstone:


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: niteowl]
    #7563202 - 10/26/07 12:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

simple mind control through media. Leading to rigorous obedience (edit:on violence).
You are right.


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: niteowl]
    #7563604 - 10/26/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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niteowl said:
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i think violence and sexual activity are hard wired.... the violent, sexy media won't be helping but at the end of the day, we are just animals.




Agreed.

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Also it's a population issue. Put too many rats in a cage, what happens?
There is i solution that does not involve violence however. It's simple, every woman has only ONE child... easy.




Then explain why there is violence in small towns? They are not "over populated" yet there is still violence being committed in these small towns.




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demius said:
moonshine and nothing else to do but sleep around/start drama...also, intelligence levels could play a role depending on the educational opportunities of said small town




In a nut shell..


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #7563658 - 10/26/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

for the dude that said most kids are having sex in high school, and some in middle school. Try elementry my friend.


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Re: Isn't it strange....... [Re: niteowl]
    #7563823 - 10/26/07 04:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's neat that this is brought up as I was discussing it with my friend just yesterday. He saw 30 Days of Night or whatnot, and said he loved the gore and violence and that we've gotten to the point where when you chop someone's head off with an axe, it no longer clips away when they do it. And it was kind of a slap in the face that we haven't changed at all. Humans enjoyed watching Gladiators kill eachother (Or just be killed by an animal) back in the day, and we would now if we hadn't found a way to do it without actually killing people. Technology has changed, we haven't.


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