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Icelander
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Indeed, and welcome to the fray.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Nudists would have you believe...
You have met and interveiwed all nudists? Is there a Nudist Manifesto that one must adhere to?
NO! and N0! So you are merely projecting. Your rant only tells us about your perspective and nothing else of note.
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Too Vanilla
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Nudists would have you believe...
You have met and interveiwed all nudists? Is there a Nudist Manifesto that one must adhere to?
NO! and N0! So you are merely projecting. Your rant only tells us about your perspective and nothing else of note.
Have I met all Christians? Are there many interpretations of the Christian religion out there?
Prolly...
But can I raise an argument about the fundamental aspects of the religion (such as the ridiculous idea that Christ died and came back in all of his kickassitude from the grave), and direct my arguments towards said religion?
Damn straight I can.
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Rahz
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If a person doesn't follow their desires, what chance do they have to grow? Let the nudists walk the streets. What harm does it cause me? Let the junkies kill themselves. What harm does it cause me?
It would be a good example of what not to do. If we cannot learn from others mistakes, we must learn from our own.
IMO, we are far to lenient on those who infringe on other people's liberty, and far to strict on those who hurt themselves.
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Too Vanilla
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Re: Nude Rant [Re: Rahz]
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Rahz said: Let the nudists walk the streets. What harm does it cause me?
Trust me, the sight of some can cause all sorts of undue harm.
Did you know that it came in both an innie and an outie version? The "it" is not referring to the belly button, mind you.
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Icelander
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Re: Nude Rant [Re: Rahz]
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IMO, we are far to lenient on those who infringe on other people's liberty, and far to strict on those who hurt themselves.
You can come live on my planet. (If I ever find it)
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Rahz
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>>>>Trust me, the sight of some can cause all sorts of undue harm.
Fat ugly people can't hurt you. Perhaps you should spend more time amongst nudist in order to develop more compassion. They say you haven't lived until you've fucked the ugliest, fattest girl you can find.
If I have a problem with an ugly nude person, it's MY problem. I don't seek out fat ugly people. I prefer healthy attractive people... healthy = attractive. But I don't feel that it is my place to command someone to wear clothing to pacify my sensibilities.
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Too Vanilla
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Re: Nude Rant [Re: Rahz]
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Fat ugly people can't hurt you. Perhaps you should spend more time amongst nudist in order to develop more compassion.
I hear Nazis spent a ton of time at concentration camps. Did they develop "more compassion"?
NOTE: I've been going to this camp for two summers now, and I've spent a great deal of time there. Some would have you assert being overweight doesn't have any bearing on your character, and I never said it did. But like a person can look at a buff guy and say "He either works out or is on steroids," I can look at fat naked person and say "I betcha he's more flammable than I am".
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Icelander
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I hear Nazis spent a ton of time at concentration camps. Did they develop "more compassion"?
That humor is just sick.
And I approve.
Nowadays in the land of plenty, fat equates with unhealthy and unattractive usually. In the olden days (far off in a land lost in time) fat meant survival and so was considered healthy and attractive.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Oh, I get it now. You are trying to show us how unspiritual being judgemental is.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Oh, I get it now. You are trying to show us how unspiritual being judgemental is.
Ssshh!
You'll piss off the christians and muslims!
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Rahz
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>>>>I hear Nazis spent a ton of time at concentration camps. Did they develop "more compassion"?
I suspect some of them did. Anyway, compassion is really a self oriented thing. It is not the fat which is grotesque, it is your reaction to the fat (and the innies).
I will agree that nudists are playing with their lower emotions. They are still children, and this is their way of growing up, as slow as it may seem.
Being overweight would be a good debate topic. If we can suspend ourselves in fluid and eat only healthy food, perhaps being "overweight" will be a thing of the past. Works good for whales.
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Icelander
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Bring em on.
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TacticalBongRip
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Nudism and Naturism in America is the biggest load of horseshit in the world, and it represents the ignorant idealism losers often have in accordance to their guilty pleasures.
Read it again. Okay, remember that.
This is something I keep in mind every time I hear someone talking about communism/socialism, marijuana legalization, and relaxation of sexual attitudes by society at large.
You mean ignorant idealism losers like Harriet Tubman and Martin Luther King Jr.? I mean jeez why didn't they just shut their mouths and sit in the back of the bus like they were supposed to instead of trying to move through a wall (of ignorance and hatred)? Idealistic losers right?
Drug users are treated as subhuman similar to the way in which African-Americans were treated in the United States in years past (although not nearly as bad). If African-Americans used their "common sense" as you say, and tried to work around their opressors instead of fighting for change, where would they be today?
The same goes for drug users who stand up to hypocritical drug laws. To stand up to something it is wise to know what exactly you are standing up against. What is a good way to know? By talking about it with others that feel the same way. That way collective action can be taken to bring about change.
Of course, the majority would prefer that we just "shut our mouths" so that they can continue sitting in front of a TV, drinking a beer and being bombarded with messages from media moguls that want to dictate the way in which people should live. As long as there are injustices that effect groups of people, there will be groups of people making statements and doing things to bring about change until those injustices are dealth with. Just my 2 cents of course...
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MushmanTheManic
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A good post except for the appeal to nature fallacy near the end.
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You know what? I was going to say what's the big fucking deal, but I get really wound up when people spell doughnuts as donuts. So I'm just not going to bother. I don't think it's worth getting wound up on.
And as for people spelling doughnuts, donuts, it makes a useful filter for who I want to spend time with.
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Icelander said: Bring em on.
Grrrr...
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