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OfflineShRm22
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BRF
    #7560708 - 10/25/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I could not find any BRF so i just bought whole grain and tried to grind it up. When I grounded it up it did not totally make flour, there are many small chunks of grain all around. Will this still work in my BRF jars?


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Re: BRF [Re: ShRm22]
    #7560764 - 10/25/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I found that homemade chunky BRF colonize twice as fast as store bought.
But you still want mostly flour.


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Re: BRF [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7560908 - 10/25/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I do not have a PC will this still work by using the steam pot to sterilize?


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Re: BRF [Re: ShRm22]
    #7560923 - 10/25/07 09:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I hear that boiling will work, but I used a PC for my cakes so I couldn't say for sure.


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Re: BRF [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7560938 - 10/25/07 09:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yea it should work with the flour but I am just worried now becuase I saw something with whole grains that you need a PC.


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Re: BRF [Re: ShRm22]
    #7560959 - 10/25/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

steaming the brf in a pot is an easier alternative than using a PC. i've done both and both work well. if you have trouble grinding the grains into powder try using a cheap coffee grinder from wal mart. 20 dollars is good enough. just gotta hold that button down for a bit and shake the stuff around while you grind to get the full effect.


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Re: BRF [Re: Toodles]
    #7560974 - 10/25/07 09:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I will try to grind it all the way down by my concern is will it still get sterilized with a steamer when there is whole grains in there?


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Re: BRF [Re: Toodles]
    #7560975 - 10/25/07 09:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Whole grains MUST be pressure cooked, whether or not they've been ground to a flour. Brown rice flour can be steamed, because rice doesn't harbor bacterial endospores. Whole grains do.
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Re: BRF [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7560989 - 10/25/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Alright, so brown rice flour or whole brown rice is not a whole grain? So if it is either BRF or half chopped rice and flour it does not need to be PC'd? Someone please verify whether or not I need a PC.


Edited by ShRm22 (10/25/07 11:03 PM)


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Re: BRF [Re: ShRm22]
    #7561255 - 10/25/07 11:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

RR or someone please comment


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Re: BRF [Re: ShRm22]
    #7561276 - 10/25/07 11:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

just listen to rr and you'll be a-ok


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Re: BRF [Re: rynobot8]
    #7561949 - 10/26/07 06:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I am listening to him I am just unsure if brown rice is a whole grain or not. If it is a whole grain and I have some chunks of rice and not all totally flour in my substrate then it needs to be pressure cooked thats my question.


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Re: BRF [Re: ShRm22]
    #7562069 - 10/26/07 07:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What you have isn't what RR was talking about. You *should* be fine, though I too have never gone without a PC


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Re: BRF [Re: ShRm22]
    #7562086 - 10/26/07 08:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

are you saying you brought brown rice, ground it up, but there are still chunks of rice in it? Steam one jar for a few hours, inoculate and see if it works?


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Re: BRF [Re: christofchristof]
    #7562136 - 10/26/07 08:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yah what RR is talking about is other kind of grains. you're in the clear. just steam em. but PC is always the BEST way. although i have no problems with steaming =)


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Re: BRF [Re: Toodles]
    #7562176 - 10/26/07 08:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ok thanks for the help I just wanted to make sure I was good by steaming them. I have limited access to spores and I cannot waste any. I am looking for a PC but for now I am planning on going with the boiling method.


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