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CherryBom
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: Booby]
#7579994 - 10/31/07 09:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Booby said: When society threatens you with death by a thousand cuts then only a fool would not be a coward. You're exempt of course.
It's 2007.
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I like dudes.
It's nothing I proclaim constantly, but it's nothing I deny when asked.
I dunno, I'm pretty "meh" about it, but I've been out since I was 16.
Anyways congrats. ;D
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: MOTH]
#7580810 - 10/31/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think the real test of your sexuality will be when you actually get with a woman. I thought I was bisexual for a while, but then I actually got intimate with a guy, and while the kissing was okay, I got uncomfortable as he tried to take it further, and had to stop him. Sexuality is a weird thing, and the labels we use are so inadequate at describing it.
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MOTH
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That's true. Fantasy and desire is one thing and then playing it out in real life is something else.
Well...I can tell you this...if I'm not gay, then I'm completely sexless.
P.S. You silly boys stop arguing in my thread. Go away if you want to play your ego games. 
(not referring to Silversoul)
Edited by MOTH (10/31/07 03:05 PM)
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Booby
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: MOTH]
#7581531 - 10/31/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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disturbed
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: Booby]
#7581658 - 10/31/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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moth first off congrats on finding yourself. Just out of curiosity how long were you married for?
I'm with silversoul you must have a cool as fuck/understanding husband, there's no way I would be able to deal with that so easily.
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: MOTH]
#7582250 - 10/31/07 08:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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MOTH said:
Well...I can tell you this...if I'm not gay, then I'm completely sexless.
I am pretty sure I am as well.
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MOTH
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centrum said:
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MOTH said:
Well...I can tell you this...if I'm not gay, then I'm completely sexless.
I am pretty sure I am as well.
But...how do you deal with this? Maybe I'm not gay at all. Maybe I'm just some sexless thing that is just searching for a way to define myself with a cultural definition that people can relate to more easily.
But sexless? Full of desire for affection and love and wanting to give it but nothing to do with physical intimacy?
What the hell is this thing? It really does seem undefinible. I actually am not sure now that I am stoned as hell (halloween!) that I would be able to react physically with a female.
Who's to say? Do I dare to find out? Is it only fear holding me back? Does fear make one sexless?
I'm so high...
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: MOTH]
#7582444 - 10/31/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just fly by my own intuition and ride the wave of social interaction. If it happens it does, but its only one of many experiences life has to offer. In fact I feel free'er without the desire for sex.
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MOTH
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I don't really have the desire for sex either. I haven't for years. Perhaps I never have, it's hard to say. I envision the tactile sensations of women in my mind, but...sex? Put to the question like that, I really don't know.
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: MOTH]
#7582520 - 10/31/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well i would like to step in here, i have been watching the thread develop.
Congratulations on your understanding of your self. It takes a strong will to be able to come to terms with ones self on these issues, and a stronger person still to be able to voice them to the world.
Im very glad that Kevin is there for you and supportive as well
much love
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MOTH
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: ZippoZ]
#7584590 - 11/01/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks man. I've decided all of a sudden that I don't care whether or not I am gay or straight. All in all, it looks like I am a sexless creature that cannot be defined by man or woman. I'm such a weirdo. But do you need to have sexual relations to be human? I wonder...
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: MOTH]
#7584639 - 11/01/07 04:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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But do you need to have sexual relations to be human? I wonder...
Nope. You don't even have to have sexual relations to make a human.
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MOTH
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: Veritas]
#7584741 - 11/01/07 04:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Veritas said:
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But do you need to have sexual relations to be human? I wonder...
Nope. You don't even have to have sexual relations to make a human.
Good point. I guess by declaring myself gay I was looking for social acceptance in a way, because what I am cannot be clearly defined with a single word, but I thought I would try to use a term that most people understood. And it did fit...and maybe still does, although the jury is out on that. The truth is that I just kinda like keeping myself to myself and that if I never had sex again with anyone, I wouldn't miss it. I feel completely nonsexual.
But I don't know...I might feel differently if I ever found a girlfriend.
Oh well.
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: MOTH]
#7585063 - 11/01/07 06:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think that your sexual/affectional orientation is between you and your partner(s), or just you if you choose to be celibate. It is not a defining characteristic, so why should anyone else know about it or even care? 
Why not take it on a case-by-case basis? If you meet someone & find yourself sexually attracted, then you are free to explore that attraction within whatever relationship the two of you construct. If they have a penis, fine, if they have a vagina, fine. It's not about the equipment, it's about enjoying the ride.
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MOTH
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: Veritas]
#7585229 - 11/01/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know, I just over-think it.
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Krishna
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: MOTH]
#7637538 - 11/14/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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MOTH said: I don't have breasts anymore. Not really. I am not even a cup size. I am a size 32 small in "bralette" size, the type that twelve year olds wear. The universe works in mysterious ways.
wait, so, did you end up parting with the twins? 
in all seriousness, though, much love & best of luck on the whole journey of self-discovery, and you are really lucky to have a loved one like kevin to stick by your side through the ups & downs. my 2cents on the issue would be to be wary of jumping to labels of identity, even if they seem to help clear up confusion, as you might find yourself some weeks, months, or years down the road realizing that the label doesn't really reflect who you are, but was just a name-tag that you used to help create a "stable" identity-definition. i believe that the self, like everything else in this topsy-turvy universe of ours, is in constant flux - and while there certainly are "patterns" of this dynamism, we've got to be careful not to narrow the possibilities in attempting to describe the patterns we might see
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: Krishna]
#7638271 - 11/15/07 02:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Krishna said: in all seriousness, though, much love & best of luck on the whole journey of self-discovery, and you are really lucky to have a loved one like kevin to stick by your side through the ups & downs. my 2cents on the issue would be to be wary of jumping to labels of identity, even if they seem to help clear up confusion, as you might find yourself some weeks, months, or years down the road realizing that the label doesn't really reflect who you are, but was just a name-tag that you used to help create a "stable" identity-definition. i believe that the self, like everything else in this topsy-turvy universe of ours, is in constant flux - and while there certainly are "patterns" of this dynamism, we've got to be careful not to narrow the possibilities in attempting to describe the patterns we might see
You're so right. Some weeks after making this post, I realized that I really CAN'T put a label on my sexuality. I exhibit gay tendencies, but can one word sum up all that I am? Nah...
It helped (and still helps, sometimes, whenever I feel a flash of female lust) but... I'm just queer.
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: MOTH]
#7639320 - 11/15/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I admire how you're dealing with this so selflessly. That's awesome that you're cool with him having a girlfriend and everything, guys DO have needs . That's probably a huge load off your back too, being able to put your sexuality into proper perspective and not living a lie. 
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Re: I'm gay. [Re: Newbie]
#7641638 - 11/15/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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NewbieShroomie said: I admire how you're dealing with this so selflessly. That's awesome that you're cool with him having a girlfriend and everything, guys DO have needs . That's probably a huge load off your back too, being able to put your sexuality into proper perspective and not living a lie. 
TOTALLY. And it's awesome because in "coming out" I am starting to enjoy women in a sensual light A LOT MORE. One of my girlfriends just got a boyish haircut that I think is totally hot. But I also enjoy feminine men too. What it is: I like the people who blur the gender boundaries. Someone who embodies both genders and yet neither is totally hot to me. I feel like I'm beyond gay at this point.
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