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stxlacrosse022
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SUBWOOFERS
#7560234 - 10/25/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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anyone have any good knowledge in subwoofers and amps?
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Sure.
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mine were cheap. i have MTX 12 inch subs. they came as a package deal with an amp that sucked so i gt rid of it. I have a pioneer amp now. Uhhhh yeah so they sound decent but once u get some u always want louder and stronger so i would save as much money as possible, also dont forget wires and amps make all the difference
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What do you need to know?
I've got a 12" MTX ported subwoofer with a 1000W amp.
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Ask away...ill try to help you as much as i can. Ive been competing in SLAPshow (spl) for a couple of years now. Ill try to help you as best as i can.
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I have a alpine type R 12"...it's been great,as for amps get Cadence.Not only are they reasonably priced...but also good quality! Trust me,I've been around Audio forums and all they ever talk about is cadence.I'll be purchasing one pretty soon.
http://www.cadencestore.com/ProductCart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=125
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Depends on the question.
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: D4NK]
#7560395 - 10/25/07 07:19 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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The question fails to exist.
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ZShroom
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the question is whats the question?
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: ZShroom]
#7560407 - 10/25/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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ZShroom said: the question is whats the question?
The answer:
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Well, if there ends up being a question, I Worked in Car audio for a year or so.
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: Psy Baba]
#7560599 - 10/25/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm pretty big into car audio...but i see no question, perhaps he's just asking just to be nosy, lol.
Here's my car. 2 xxx 15's. big wuffers..65lbs each yo' lol
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: enesi]
#7560613 - 10/25/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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srry i didnt know i would get such fast answers but i was wondering if these subs and amp would work togther? im new to this.http://www.cardomain.com/item/IDSIDQ12D4V2 i would be getting 2 of those and this as amp http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=103
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go with the idmax instead...you'll thank me later.
those idq's you posted are dual 4ohm, which can be wired to a 1ohm load. So you need an amp that will do about 1,000 watts at 1ohm mono.
The amp you listed, is a 4 channel amp, will not work very well with a subwoofer. That's an amp you would use on your highs, or on a lower power subwoofer setup, or as a multi ch. configuration (i.e. two channels to the front, rear channels bridged to sub)
I would suggest one of these amps for the idq's, it will push them nicely.
http://www.sundownaudio.com/pp1000d.html
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: enesi]
#7560649 - 10/25/07 08:34 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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id rather not by the maxs witch i looked at first but price made me not go with them. i was debating with image dynamics and JL audio but i saw reviews on image and thought to give it a try. Got any other picks? I would rather by the subwoofers and amp separate instead of a pre-made box.
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stxlacrosse022 said: id rather not by the maxs witch i looked at first but price made me not go with them. i was debating with image dynamics and JL audio but i saw reviews on image and thought to give it a try. Got any other picks? I would rather by the subwoofers and amp separate instead of a pre-made box.
idmax is a litte more expensive, but one idmax will be more then enough..you'll love it. get a single 12 and it will throw down in the right box.
fuck jl audio..only decent thing they have going for them is the w6v2, which has nice sq. otherwise fuck em.
pre made box...hell no. You need to build a proper ported enclosure for whatever you get, what kinda car is this going into?
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: enesi]
#7560673 - 10/25/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cheverolet Tahoe 2004 what about the 10? i would want a 12 but im trying to figure out if there is a much diff in these two? Also what amp?
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: enesi]
#7560697 - 10/25/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow enesi, NICE lookin setup. What do you actually have components, amps, power system, etc? Did you build that wall? I'm sure you've been mic'd, what'd you hit?
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stxlacrosse022 said: Cheverolet Tahoe 2004 what about the 10? i would want a 12 but im trying to figure out if there is a much diff in these two? Also what amp?
talkin about idq or idmax? Difference between a 10 and 12 would probably only be the 12 has more cone area, and has the ability to be slightly louder at certain freq. Just depends really how much room you've got to work with and stuff.
amp i still say sundown..they are very nice.
I would suggest an idmax 12 in a 2.5 cf ported enclosure tuned to around 32-34 hz.
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: D4NK]
#7560733 - 10/25/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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D4NK said: Wow enesi, NICE lookin setup. What do you actually have components, amps, power system, etc? Did you build that wall? I'm sure you've been mic'd, what'd you hit?
Yep..do all my own work
Components are DLS amps are orion 2500d's (one for each sub) Power is an excessive amperage 200amp alt, two yellowtops (haven't added the new batts yet, got 6 going in) and lots of 1/0 wire!
hit a 153.2 on the Termlab, down in the passenger kickpanel. Cool thing is, the wall is tuned to around 28hz...so it gets VERY loud at low freq's, lol
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: enesi]
#7560752 - 10/25/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would suggest an idmax 12 in a 2.5 cf ported enclosure tuned to around 32-34 hz.
meaning? remember im new to it ...i know u are talking about making a 2.5 circumference ported enclosure for the subs but what do u mean by tuned to 32-34hz? i was talking about the idmax by the way.
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also what about a cd player? i want a mp3 one
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I would suggest an idmax 12 in a 2.5 cf ported enclosure tuned to around 32-34 hz.
meaning? remember im new to it ...i know u are talking about making a 2.5 circumference ported enclosure for the subs but what do u mean by tuned to 32-34hz? i was talking about the idmax by the way.
2.5 cubic feet..is the volume of your box after you subtract the subwoofer and port displacement. It's the "net volume" or usable airspace the driver will see.
Tuning is determined by three factors that are all relevant to each other. If you change one, the tuning is changed. Those are Enclosure Volume, Port area, and Port length.
A port can be a round tube, or a square or rectangle slot (like in my car) The port area is how large the opening of the port is. For example, my box has 150" of port area. that is 25" by 6" rectangle hole you see. The length of the port is how far it extends into the enclosure. The longer the port, the lower the tuning.
If you're a total noob, you may be better off to just have someone build a box for you. For that i would contact Woodlawn cabinetry, they are the best at what they do
Here is their website http://www.woodlawncabinetry.com
Here is their forum section http://www.splbassx.com/forums/index.php?showforum=28
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stxlacrosse022 said: also what about a cd player? i want a mp3 one
eh, that's really all personal preference. Take your budget and buy the best one you can afford. Myself...I like pioneers.
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stxlacrosse022 said: anyone have any good knowledge in subwoofers and amps?
sud woofers aren't as good as uber woofers!
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: enesi]
#7560915 - 10/25/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Niiice enesi..glad to see more RE fans out there. My last setup was a RE XXX 15' and an Orion 1200d amp. I know it wasnt recieving much power but DAMN that thing was a monster. I had it ported at 48 hz for comps and 30ish for daily driving. It was a monster. I was doin mid 140s on the new termlab...and prolly a coupld db higher on the other looser mics. But again..props for using such a great company
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thx so much for the info
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: enesi]
#7561707 - 10/26/07 02:17 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hope you were wearing earplugs hehe
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: stefan]
#7561839 - 10/26/07 04:49 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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uh... if i wanted to buy subwoofers for a small bar or club, how do i do that.
i looked around on the internet and for some reason i just couldn't figure out it...
i'm not dumb, but i really have no clue. i've seen the small box ones at parties, and i've seen the ones the size of refridgerators.
i've read alot, but i need info on those very large subs in particular, can someone link me?
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: enesi]
#7562031 - 10/26/07 07:39 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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D4NK said: Wow enesi, NICE lookin setup. What do you actually have components, amps, power system, etc? Did you build that wall? I'm sure you've been mic'd, what'd you hit?
Yep..do all my own work
Components are DLS amps are orion 2500d's (one for each sub) Power is an excessive amperage 200amp alt, two yellowtops (haven't added the new batts yet, got 6 going in) and lots of 1/0 wire!
hit a 153.2 on the Termlab, down in the passenger kickpanel. Cool thing is, the wall is tuned to around 28hz...so it gets VERY loud at low freq's, lol
153 w/ a 28Hz tune...
I can't imagine what you'd hit with say, at 40Hz+ tune.
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: D4NK]
#7563575 - 10/26/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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D4NK said: Wow enesi, NICE lookin setup. What do you actually have components, amps, power system, etc? Did you build that wall? I'm sure you've been mic'd, what'd you hit?
Yep..do all my own work
Components are DLS amps are orion 2500d's (one for each sub) Power is an excessive amperage 200amp alt, two yellowtops (haven't added the new batts yet, got 6 going in) and lots of 1/0 wire!
hit a 153.2 on the Termlab, down in the passenger kickpanel. Cool thing is, the wall is tuned to around 28hz...so it gets VERY loud at low freq's, lol
153 w/ a 28Hz tune...
I can't imagine what you'd hit with say, at 40Hz+ tune.
heh, yea, my car was built for daily music...If i tuned it for spl i'm sure i would be 155+ easily. My car peaks around 48-49hz usually.
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: enesi]
#7563816 - 10/26/07 04:11 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Which DLS are you running?
My IS300 has....
DLS Ultimate 6.5 2 way. (UR6 Sandwich cone) IDMAX 12" PG Xenon 200x4@any ohm load. Pioneer 8600MP Pinoeer XM receiver
No rear fill (poo on it!)
I'll post pics in a sec.
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mndfreeze said: PG Xenon 200x4@any ohm load.
How low?
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: D4NK]
#7564237 - 10/26/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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hmm all this talk about IDMAX tempts me to try them out,My 12" alpine type R is good but I'm sure theres better ones.Also I need to replace my front factory speakers It sucks having a sub with crappy speakers!
I was thinking of getting the Alpine Type-X SPX-177R 6.5 Inch 2-Way Component Speakers with a 2 channel cadence amp producing 300w x 2,eh eh?
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I'd just rock out the Alpine Type R's (6.5), but that's just me
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: D4NK]
#7564813 - 10/26/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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here is my system:
i'm going to load it into this:
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Re: SUBWOOFERS [Re: D4NK]
#7570831 - 10/28/07 08:09 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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1ohm stable or 2 ohm stable bridged I believe.
Its 4 channel, I run 200 each to my front DLS components then bridge the rear set into a 400x1@4ohm channel.
Little underpowered for the IDMAX, but I always go for SQ over SPL and you need very little bass overall for a completely flat EQ'd system.
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