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somebody041
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Re: I'd like to see a shift of midset on pans in here. [Re: VisionsToReality]
#7564867 - 10/26/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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VisionsToReality said: I still don't get why everyone recommends beginners do cakes. Why not just start with bulk? This really isn't rocketscience. Most college labs require more thought.
When i was first getting into the hobby, i decided to go straight to bulk. WBS to coir cased with 50/50+. everything went well. f cakes
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RogerRabbit
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Re: I'd like to see a shift of midset on pans in here. [Re: somebody041]
#7565030 - 10/26/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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The reason for starting with cakes is as much financial as learning the mushroom life cycle. I also started with bulk because the pf tek hadn't been invented yet.
However, you can do a batch of pf cakes for the price of a dozen jars and a bag of brown rice, and a $3 bag of vermiculite.
Bulk requires a bit more investment, such as a pressure cooker and larger jars for grain, but the rewards are much greater, to be sure. For someone who might not like the experience, pf tek the first time prevents them from going bankrupt. RR
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Re: I'd like to see a shift of midset on pans in here. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7570193 - 10/28/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well wbs is just as easy as making cakes, in fact I found it to be easier. Rye grain (or berries) work great with pans and is prepared just like WBS. Cubies may be a little more tollerent to fluctuations in the amount of water but properly prepared grain should work for either. What have people found to be the best and simplest way way to set up your fruiting chamber? I believe this is where most people will have problems considering you need to have better humidity control then with cubies.
I am going to leave bulk out of this equation right now because I want this thread to inform people that pans are almost as easy as cubies and can be grown almost the same way.
I would like to get people on this board to the point where they know just as much about pans as they do about cubies. Yes cubies are going to still be the first choice for people who are doing large or bulk grows because of the volume of mushies you get but for those people who are growing for them self and friends I think they will find that pans are not only way more potent but can be even more enjoyable then cubies.
P.S. I know that there is still a lot of talk on this board about making cubies more potent and it becomes a whole discussion on what can have that effect and that it usualy isn't worthwhile because you can just grow and eat more at one time. What I don't understand is why a lot of the more seasoned members on here don't join in and let people know that pans and other strains can be just as easy as cubies. This is especially true once you have done a grow or two.
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budmanman
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Re: I'd like to see a shift of midset on pans in here. [Re: armyabe]
#7570341 - 10/28/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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armyabe said: nice so what's the set up?
Green house 2.5-4 inch horse poo.
Grain spawned.
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jeetered
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Re: I'd like to see a shift of midset on pans in here. [Re: budmanman]
#7570385 - 10/28/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, i know pans to be very successful by colonizing rye grass seed, then spawning to manure, and have no more then 1.5" depth of substrate. lightly cased, and then kept at 80-86*F to fruit, with as much FAE as humanly possible, and keeping the rH up at the same time, this is usually best achieved using a fogger or humidifier of some sort, at a warm temp, not cool.
so it's essentially the same as asing cubes, just different temps and WAY more fae.
right now, ohmatic's giving it a good go with his thread so right now he's leading the forefront!
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