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Slimz
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Registered: 10/03/07
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Super Mix
#7558205 - 10/25/07 07:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whats your "Super Mix"
This is my first attempt. I have envisioned this one in my head 1/4 cup popcorn 1/4 cup rye flour 1/4 cup WBS 1 cup fine vermiculite 3 Tbs honey im not sure on the water amount yet but probably about 1/4 to 1/2 cup.
remove sunflower seeds from seed and soak seed and popcorn over night drain excess water from seeds and popcorn mix honey and water mix dry ingredients add honey/water mix to dry ingredients and mix well
then just add it to your bag or jars or whatever and PC it.
I think it would be a winning mix..
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Blutjager
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Re: Super Mix [Re: Slimz]
#7558233 - 10/25/07 07:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Even if it did work it would have to work ALLOT better than rye or wbs to make it worth the effort,I have always done one or the other but I have seen people mix them(Rye and WBS)
Why honey ??
save honey for lc...clink the lc honey tek in my Sig
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Slimz
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Your missing the point. Im trying to give the mycall the help i can. the honey does a few things.. its a natrual antiseptic, its sugar is easly converted by the myc (like in a LC), and it helps the slow evaporation thus make the moisture release more controlled.
Im prety sure somebody has probably tried it before.. if no.. this weekend ill be the first
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mycocurious
Mike O. Kuerias



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Re: Super Mix [Re: Slimz]
#7558742 - 10/25/07 11:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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honey also contains an active botulism bacteria in it - which is in all regards harmless, except in babies under a year old - so I don't know if I would place that into an ideal incubation environment without it being sterilized first.
(but that's just blind paranoia on my part)
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Slimz
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it would be sterilized in the PC
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xaxphaanes
Mycologist



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Re: Super Mix [Re: Slimz]
#7558810 - 10/25/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like more work than what is needed look at the nutrients in rye and wbs see the long list of things? thats all the mycelium needs untill getting spawned to manure or coir or what not.And if you want to add more hydrate your grains with coffee for a boost.
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mycocurious
Mike O. Kuerias



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Re: Super Mix [Re: Slimz]
#7558819 - 10/25/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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good deal. I know plenty of people who have secret substrate formulas of which each component serves some scientific (to them) reason for including it. I'm not against it, but in my humble opinion it's an unnecessary complication.
As always, YMMV... (your mileage may vary)
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Slimz
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I changed my mind.. i would skip the popcorn...
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monstermitch
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Quote:
mycocurious said: good deal. I know plenty of people who have secret substrate formulas of which each component serves some scientific (to them) reason for including it. I'm not against it, but in my humble opinion it's an unnecessary complication.
As always, YMMV... (your mileage may vary)
with more experience you will change your mind... grain to poo is so far from optimal it's not even funny.
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mycocurious
Mike O. Kuerias



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edit: OK, I see my folly was in using the alliteration of "secret substrate recipes" when I had meant that we were talking about spawn materials...
----------------- Well, lately I've been experimenting with using compost specifically amended with targeted strains in mind. I've been composting for years but only recently did I start putting together my only mystical and slightly scientific (at least to me) recipe of what components should be added to those piles... :laughs:
But we're not talking about substrate recipes, we're talking about spawn-grain recipes. To me, it seems that should be one of the less complicated and lowest costing step in the process considering it's also supposed to have the highest "write-off" potential out of the process. If the colonizing spawn doesn't look 100% ideal, toss it.
At least in my humble opinion...
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Don't mistake my tone for a "matter-of-fact" attitude. I'm just presenting what I believe to be correct, until I'm corrected... - How Myco-Curious Prepares Coir & Compost Substrates - How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier - How Myco-Curious Builds An Automated Greenhouse ------------------------------------ figgusfiddus said: Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.
Edited by mycocurious (10/25/07 12:30 PM)
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vas
A shroom



Registered: 04/12/03
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One note to add….
If u add honey to the mix and then pressure cook it, it might caramelize, thus not help in the colonisation, it might hinder it instead.
At least that’s what I’ve experienced
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jeetered
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Re: Super Mix [Re: vas]
#7589522 - 11/02/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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canola oil is a good additive.
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katfish
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Re: Super Mix [Re: jeetered]
#7589995 - 11/03/07 12:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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why canola oil?
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