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Buying a new .45
#7557906 - 10/25/07 03:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone out there own a Auto Ordnance 1911? Thinking about buying my first .45.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: pong]
#7557912 - 10/25/07 03:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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'seen the glock 18 before and havent been able to remove the protein stains since, lol.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7557924 - 10/25/07 03:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah, the only way i know of to get that thing is illegaly....
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: pong]
#7557929 - 10/25/07 03:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or move to Germany
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
#7558110 - 10/25/07 06:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I <3 all 1911s. they're just so sexy.
i own a glock19. i love it aswel
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
#7558271 - 10/25/07 08:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I shot a Gold Cup 1911 the other day... I'm not sure if that's the brand or not, but it was worth $2,000 apparently, and it shot VERY well.
1911's rock the house.
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I'm pickin up a heckler an koch .45 as soon as I have the money. On another note my buddy just picked up a .50 desert eagle, that thing is a beast! Its a work out just picking it up and aiming it fully loaded.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: disturbed]
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disturbed said: I'm pickin up a heckler an koch .45 as soon as I have the money. On another note my buddy just picked up a .50 desert eagle, that thing is a beast! Its a work out just picking it up and aiming it fully loaded.
Those IMI Desert Eagles are such a crappy novelty gun. They're completely worthless for anything most people want a handgun for, super picky about ammunition and need to be cleaned constantly to maintain reliability.
It's basically just to show off how big your dick is.
Now the Jericho 941 (Baby Eagle) is a different story. They are actually very well built and reliable as hell compared to the Desert Eagle.
If I want a powerful handgun, I'll just have my fun with a S&W .500 .
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
#7558589 - 10/25/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i want to pick up a .22 semi-auto for a conceal'd carry piece, plus a range gun - ammo is so cheap! a guy was shootin one a few weeks ago and he said a box of 1000rd is $20.
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disturbed said: I'm pickin up a heckler an koch .45 as soon as I have the money. On another note my buddy just picked up a .50 desert eagle, that thing is a beast! Its a work out just picking it up and aiming it fully loaded.
Those IMI Desert Eagles are such a crappy novelty gun. They're completely worthless for anything most people want a handgun for, super picky about ammunition and need to be cleaned constantly to maintain reliability.
It's basically just to show off how big your dick is.
Now the Jericho 941 (Baby Eagle) is a different story. They are actually very well built and reliable as hell compared to the Desert Eagle.
If I want a powerful handgun, I'll just have my fun with a S&W .500 .
Yea he does a lot of hunting and said that's what he got it for. Not sure how a hand gun would be better than a rifle but whatever. What makes them unreliable is it the gas system it utilizes?
I was wondering if those baby eagles were any good.
Ps. That s&w .500 is fucking bad ass.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: disturbed]
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disturbed said: I'm pickin up a heckler an koch .45 as soon as I have the money. On another note my buddy just picked up a .50 desert eagle, that thing is a beast! Its a work out just picking it up and aiming it fully loaded.
Those IMI Desert Eagles are such a crappy novelty gun. They're completely worthless for anything most people want a handgun for, super picky about ammunition and need to be cleaned constantly to maintain reliability.
It's basically just to show off how big your dick is.
Now the Jericho 941 (Baby Eagle) is a different story. They are actually very well built and reliable as hell compared to the Desert Eagle.
If I want a powerful handgun, I'll just have my fun with a S&W .500 .
Yea he does a lot of hunting and said that's what he got it for. Not sure how a hand gun would be better than a rifle but whatever. What makes them unreliable is it the gas system it utilizes?
I was wondering if those baby eagles were any good.
Ps. That s&w .500 is fucking bad ass.
Wait, he bought a .50AE Desert Eagle for hunting? Is he fucking brain damaged?
I seriously doubt that's even legal in most states and the Desert Eagle is a piss poor gun for anything besides being big and flashy. It's a novelty.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: memes]
#7558679 - 10/25/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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A .22 would be a very bad choice for self defense. For target practice and plinking it would be great, but the .22 caliber rounds were NEVER meant for defense. Hell, I wouldn't even use one for anything bigger than a squirrel or large rabbit.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
#7558702 - 10/25/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chemy said: My old lever action .45/70 had quite a kick, I can't imagine what kind of kick a revolver with that round would produce.
My uncle has an 1873 Springfield chambered in .45-70. We went out shooting with it a few years back and after about 20 handload 400grain rounds, I had a huge bruise on my shoulder like someone hit me repeatedly with a baseball.
I've fired a snub nose 4 inch survival S&W 500 one time and it was pretty rediculous. The damn thing almost jumped out of my hands.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: El Zorro]
#7558796 - 10/25/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Use a 22 for when you want them to die in a hospital. Use a 9mm for so-so stoppage,lol. Use a .45 to stop them mid-thought. Use a DE.50 to scare them, provided you dont have to actually fire it, cuz it would suck to miss 7 shots and be left standing there.The Eagle IS a novelty gun, is legal in most states, but heres the catch. Its ILLEGAL to use even in self defense against a human.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
#7558806 - 10/25/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chemy said: Springfield Armory makes the best 1911 period. www.springfield-armory.com I am a collector of 1911's. You have very good taste in guns.
Thanks, and your right about SA. I just dont have 2g to drop right now, but I found a AO for $450.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
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FungusMan said: The Eagle IS a novelty gun, is legal in most states, but heres the catch. Its ILLEGAL to use even in self defense against a human.
Uhh, I don't think so. As long as it's registered and legal, it doesn't matter if you use a Desert Eagle or a damn cannon.
I was stating that it's more than likely illegal to hunt with in most places.
Why do you think it's illegal for self defense use?
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Because its made for use against MACHINERY,lol.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7559016 - 10/25/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would like to get a FN five-seven, super light, super accurate, and high penetration...the only handguns i have even shot are a 9mm ruger and a .40 glock model 23 and a python 357 revolver. The only one that impressed me was the python...
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: supra]
#7559030 - 10/25/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was WAY off regarding the legality of the DE .50. Sry,lol. Its perfectly legal.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7559054 - 10/25/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've got a Glock 22, .40 cal.
It is pretty much buttery smooth 
I'd like to try out some .45s since it seems that everybody is making a 1911 of their own these days. Would be cool to shoot the Springfield vs. Kimber vs. Wilson Combat etc
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: skydog]
#7559068 - 10/25/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Heres the one Im planning on...
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
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FungusMan said: Because its made for use against MACHINERY,lol.
Not the .50 Action Express.
.50bmg has great penetration against non hardened armor, but a .50AE pistol round won't do jack shit comparatively.
.50BMG has about 5 times the energy and travels about twice as fast as a .50AE.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
#7559243 - 10/25/07 01:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im open to your suggestions. I was thinking 230gr Federal Metal Jackets.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
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Why do you guys like owning guns?
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: WScott]
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Just get a hunting revolver if you are itchin to stop someone dead in their tracks, if it can stop an elephant it can stop a person.
BTW I was at the shooting range awhile ago and some guy had a DEAGLE, that thing was scary. It sounded like a cannon
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: WScott]
#7560080 - 10/25/07 05:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because they make "bang bang" sounds.
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FungusMan said: Because its made for use against MACHINERY,lol.
Not the .50 Action Express.
.50bmg has great penetration against non hardened armor, but a .50AE pistol round won't do jack shit comparatively.
.50BMG has about 5 times the energy and travels about twice as fast as a .50AE.
I was always under the impression that a .50 "Desert Eagle" was designed to take down or damage low flying helicopters... I heard a story where someone lies down on their back, and when a chopper flys over, they simply dump all 7 rounds into the belly.
I have no idea if it's true or not, but I was told that.
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Dessert Eagles are pretty shitty guns.
point blank, they suck.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
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That is illegal IIRC, I remember an FN press release stating that they will not allow that gun or ammo to be sold to the public.
Wrong. The Five-Seven is completely legal for civilian transfer and use.
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Some military and police personnel view the 5.7 x 28 mm SS190 skeptically, although it is touted as a solution to defeating modern body armor. Many regard the SS190 as having insufficient "stopping power" for law enforcement use and this topic has seen much debate. A brief controversy ensued in the United States in 2004 when it was claimed by the Brady Campaign that the civilian-legal SS192 cartridges are able to pierce Level IIA body armor when fired from the Five-seveN pistol. All civilian-legal game hunting cartridges, and even several pistol cartridges, are capable of such penetration. The ability of SS192 to pierce body armor as claimed by the Brady Campaign was not confirmed with facts or data by any authoritative agencies or sources. The ammunition was not restricted for civilian sales, since it is not legally recognized as armor piercing by the BATFE. Nonetheless, FN chose to withdraw the SS192 from the market and replace it with the SS196SR.
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FungusMan said: Because its made for use against MACHINERY,lol.
Not the .50 Action Express.
.50bmg has great penetration against non hardened armor, but a .50AE pistol round won't do jack shit comparatively.
.50BMG has about 5 times the energy and travels about twice as fast as a .50AE.
I was always under the impression that a .50 "Desert Eagle" was designed to take down or damage low flying helicopters... I heard a story where someone lies down on their back, and when a chopper flys over, they simply dump all 7 rounds into the belly.
I have no idea if it's true or not, but I was told that.
What Arnold Schwarzenegger movie did that come from?
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
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See if you can get a surplus .45. Some are in great condition.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
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.44 magnum. Im just kidding though its more of a fun gun than anything practical.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
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Looks like a .44 magnum Smith & Wesson
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dont buy a .45 silly buy a .44. Get a permit for (target practice that doesn't bother neighbors) aka Silencer all though I dont think you can put a silencer on a cannon lol
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7561164 - 10/25/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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man all this talk about guns is really making me consider picking up a new hobby.
im surprised that there are so many gun-knowledgeable people on the shroomery.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: pmsskg]
#7561165 - 10/25/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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in VA you need a Class 3 weapons permit to get a silencer, and you can't shoot within X distance of houses/streets anyways.
would be nice to be able to shoot in the backyard. thank god the range is 5min from my house
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
#7561304 - 10/25/07 11:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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since it is not legally recognized as armor piercing by the BATFE
What's the point of whether or not the ammo is recognized as AP?
In the eyes of the ATF it makes a huge amount of difference.
Their definition of AP is any round that has a hardened steel, tungsten, or other hard inner core.
It makes no difference whether or not soft core bullets will defeat armor, as many civilian round will. It's all about the composition of the inner core.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
#7561324 - 10/25/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wrong. The Five-Seven is completely legal for civilian transfer and use.
Thank God for Bush, he also reversed Klintons AWB.
Bush didn't do anything to "reverse" the AWB. It was up for a 10 year renewal in the Senate and was voted down 8-90.
Bush had previously promised to sign the renewed bill into law if it passed through the senate, but of course it didn't.
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Didnt you use to post on k-dub?
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: buckwheat]
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: buckwheat]
#7561391 - 10/25/07 11:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is where its at
CZ-52

fires a 7.62x25 caliber round with a muzzle velocity of around 1200 fps. Considering I load my own bullets, I am currently using an 85 grain slug. but they range from 71-95.


This firing mechanism (called a roller locking mechanism) was built off of the same concept for world war II's infamous mg-42. This basically means that you are guaranteed your 7 shots. Shoots real nice too, real comfortable and fucking accurate. This would be my suggested purchase. Bought mine for $175! 
Note to the OP: I suggested this pistol solely for the fact that I have had plenty of experiences with no good jammin' ass 45's. A lot of the time, its the magazine, but some just seem destined to jam once in a while. My cz hasn't jammed once since I bought it... If it weren't for this pistol, I would have suggested you purchase a .357; with a revolver, you always get your six, no ifs ands or buts.
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I heard a glock will never ever jam on u, u can even put the fuckin thing underwater and pull it out.....bang....dead that is amazing
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: ZShroom]
#7561709 - 10/26/07 02:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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As far as jamming, most people don't realize that you have to dump at least 50 rounds minimum to break it in. And I hate to even think about stopping at 50, but more like 500. A good 1911 jams/stovepipes etc at higher grains. I'm giddy as a schoolgirl right now. Now, I need to find a cheap open carry holster,lol. I love my state
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
#7597303 - 11/05/07 02:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Found my grips chem...
 Got a Blackhawk CQC Serpa holster. Just two more weeks now
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7598276 - 11/05/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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If i had a 1911 id get the punisher grips. Thats a nice holster i have it for my glock.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: buckwheat]
#7601157 - 11/06/07 12:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, I actually was looking at some "pun" grips, but I like the thought of having the laser built into the grip to have room for other stuff on the rail. How long was the learning curve with the holster? It's sad, but I already am planning on another 1911. I friggin love these guns,lol. I might even get a 1911 Commander for the wifey...
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7601175 - 11/06/07 12:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't rely on a laser sight.
Practice practice practice and practice. If you can't put a 1 inch group at 25 yards then you need to practice more.
While a laser sight might be cool and impressive to you, you best learn like you don't have one. When it comes down to a life or death situation, it's rather rely on my instincts than a little glowing red light.
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WakeboardrB said: Don't rely on a laser sight.
Practice practice practice and practice. If you can't put a 1 inch group at 25 yards then you need to practice more.
While a laser sight might be cool and impressive to you, you best learn like you don't have one. When it comes down to a life or death situation, it's rather rely on my instincts than a little glowing red light.
Oh trust me, I will be plinking my ass off. And actually, the laser isn't for looks. Its for when/if I have to aim startled from sleep in the pitch black. Navy seals and other special forces train they're asses FOR life and death situations, yet they use lasers. Its all about easier, faster target acquisition in low light, impulse shots.
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If you can't put a 1 inch group at 25 yards then you need to practice more.
A 1 inch group across 25 yards with a pistol? Surely you're joking right?
1 inch groups across 25 feet sounds more like it, at 25 yards consistently hitting a beercan would be pretty decent if you have a reasonably rapid draw-and-fire sequence.
I shoot air BB's and consistently hitting a bottlecap (your 1 inch target) across 25ft is about the extent of my skills with a small BB pistol using the plain fixed sights and a swift aim and fire. (no scope or laser stuff)
I can't imagine hitting a bottlecap at 75ft. that way 
1 inch groups across 25 yards using the fixed sights of a 1911 or a glock? Sorry, I just don't see that happening. Can someone with actual firearm experience chime in and comment on this?
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Asante]
#7603023 - 11/06/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I should really stop posting while drunk.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
#7605423 - 11/07/07 12:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Chemy said: lolz, I didn't want to comment on this since I have naturally shaky hands. Maybe those competition shooters could shoot 1" groups at 25 yards. I couldn't do that at 10 yards
Yes, not only is it possible, it's not that infrequent. Im not gonna post links unless I really have too (just got home from work). Mostly its 1.5in groups, but whateva, lol. I cant wait to sight those grips though...
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Chemy]
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LOL chemy. I dont know, but I myself am prescribed Xanax,lol. I dont take bars, just 15mg a day. LOL, panic disorder mixed with carrying .45 = good times,right? lol
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7606382 - 11/07/07 10:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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FungusMan said: LOL chemy. I dont know, but I myself am prescribed Xanax,lol. I dont take bars, just 15mg a day. LOL, panic disorder mixed with carrying .45 = good times,right? lol
You take 15mg of Xanax a day and are going to be carrying a handgun?
There has got to be something illegal about that.
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High doses of Xanax or the rebound when you miss a dose can severely impair your judgement and can make perfectly sane people commit insane acts.
If you take 15mg Xanax a day you should NOT carry a handgun. A handgun falls under "do not operate dangerous/heavy machinery when taking this drug" and at 15 fucking mg that isn't just something they say.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Asante]
#7609481 - 11/07/07 11:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have Anxiety Disorder, am 6'2/390lbs. Three 5's a day just keeps me normal.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7610098 - 11/08/07 07:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Three 5's a day just keeps me normal.
Sorry to hear that, but even if you notice little of it its a pharmacological truckload.
If someone shoots five bags of heroin a day but barely feels it, should he be driving a school bus?
What kind of anxiety disorder do you have? If it has anything to do with people you shouldn't carry a gun, period. Despite the drug you can have a panic attack and freak the fuck out. Or you can overreact to a perceivedly dangerous situation and pump someone full of lead under questionable circumstances.
The average mugger just wants your money. Carry two wallets, one your real wallet and one with 50 bucks in it but no bank cards etc. If you get mugged, hand over the lesser wallet. The mugger will be overjoyed to get his fix or whatever he needs money for, and would be just as glad to be out of the mugging situation quickly like you are.
When does a mugger ever say: "now gimme your SECOND wallet " It doesn't happen.
As a sidearm you can wear a can of pepper gel or pepper foam (not spray). Thats a lot easier to justify in court than a concealed handgun and a dead mugger.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Asante]
#7611215 - 11/08/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not all about muggings my friend. Have you ever had people tweaked out walk into your house? Do you live 5 minutes walk from a "projects"? How many carjackings occur around your block? Have you ever had a gun pulled on you? Have you ever had a knife pulled on you? Have you ever been shot at? The world isn't always happy and carefree my friend, and there isn't always a happy and non-violent way to end a situation whilst keeping your life.
I have been the victim of all the above. I WILL NOT let the same happen to my new family. I have no problem telling that to a judge at a hearing. As to my anxiety disorder, I don't have "triggers". I don't have attacks based on my environment. They are random, and I don't "freak-out". When they do occur, I realize I'm just having an attack and take a Xanax. Been doing it for years, no biggie. It's not guns that kill people Wiccan, people kill people.
If your anxiety concerns were relevant, then I would already have been in jail for grabbing the nearest object and beating people just because I'm having an attack. If you don't like guns, then post in a more "warm and fuzzy" thread. Thats all I have to say, and I'm not going to argue. Arguing on the internet is like the Special Olympics. Even if you win, your still retarded...
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7611283 - 11/08/07 01:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not guns that kill people Wiccan, people kill people.
I don't know you, but generally people with a serious anxiety disorder who are on a truckload of xanax aren't the best candidates to walk around with a gun.
15mg xanax = 60 pills of 0.25 mg. You eat two boxes of regular-strength Xanax a day. That's the equivalent of 300mg Valium. Taking that or skipping a dose can make any person freak out completely unexpectedly.
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If your anxiety concerns were relevant, then I would already have been in jail for grabbing the nearest object and beating people just because I'm having an attack.
Carrying a gun changes a man. And that man is heavily medicated on judgement impairing drugs for psychiatric reasons.
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If you don't like guns, then post in a more "warm and fuzzy" thread.
I'm in no way an anti-gun person.
I hope you can move to a location where life is safer, and that you can find a way to deal with your harsh medical situation.
Find a way to take your family to safety man, from what you're describing you got to get outta Dodge.
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FungusMan said: I WILL NOT let the same happen to my new family.
Sounds like the new family’s biggest problem is daddy.
Whoa... what a terrible thing to say.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: PJDIDDLE]
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FungusMan said: I WILL NOT let the same happen to my new family.
Sounds like the new family’s biggest problem is daddy.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
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FungusMan said: I have Anxiety Disorder, am 6'2/390lbs. Three 5's a day just keeps me normal.
Xanax doesn't come in 5mg You must mean .5 mg
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: PJDIDDLE]
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Obviously the 15 mgs is a mistake. He said three 5's, alprazolam has never been produced in 5mg. So the guy does not take 15 mgs of alprazolam. I'm sure he means .5's
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: El Zorro]
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Yeah, I was hoping to God that he meant .5mg. With 15mg a day you'd be lucky if you were alive after missing a days dose.
Oh and I disagree with all of America being unsafe. I've lived in my town for 8 years and have never once felt unsafe. I've never been robbed and I've never known anyone from this area that has been robbed. It doesn't mean it's not going to happen, but it's highly unlikely.
Now in the city is a different thing. Still I've only felt threatened once and that was from a gang of straight edge punk college students that were looking for a fight.
Ironically enough the last time I've heard of someone close to me getting robbed was my best friend, while he was in Amsterdam. He was robbed at knifepoint coming out of his hotel and lost about 200 Euros and his cell phone.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: PJDIDDLE]
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If that’s the case I feel bad for being an ass about it. It was just sooooo much damn xanax.
Don't feel bad. That amount of Xanax really is alarming.
I know one person that has ever taken that much.... and he ended up setting his bathroom on fire that night.
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Owning guns is only partially for protection... The point is the government SHOULD NOT CONTROL GUNS, and it's my fucking right to own one for whatever reason I want. The end.
They wrote the fucking bill of rights in order. #1 is obviously the most important, but the right for any sane, non criminal to own a weapon is fairly clear. It's #2!
I'm not saying this guy should have a gun or not... I'm not his doctor. But the point I'm trying to make is that people should be more aware of the real issue. Which is our government slowly eroding the fucking Constitution.
And he's obviously on 1.5... 15 is absurd. It's like saying I take 500mg of Percocet a day for back pain.
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And he's obviously on 1.5... 15 is absurd.
After five years of Other Drugs Discussion I have to disagree with you. It's entirely possible that he's on 15mg Alprazolam a day. We have members who own ounces of pure alprazolam.
If he's on 1.5mg.. that makes all the difference. Then it's up to him to thoroughly assess his mental state and he might well be a candidate for owning a gun.
For 15mg: no dice. This is why:
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Most people that I've seen combine alcohol and bars, or just take too many benzos turn into raging lunatics or jerks, myself included. A "friend" who when he was a teenager, took 2 bars and drank a six pack, then proceeded to go home and ask his mom for money. When she said no, he trashed her house, then sprayed her with pepper spray and hit her in the jaw, then kicked her in the stomach. "He" has no memory of the incident, he only knows what was in the police report, and what "his" mother said in the trial as a witness.
If you are under very high doses of benzos you are prone to spontaneous bouts of insanity. In that regard it might as well be Datura - you can spend hours in a state where there's nobody behind the wheel upstairs, and where you do the craziest things, not seldom quite violent things too.
Also, someone needing 15mg xanax to deal with his anxieties is way more reason for concern than someone popping three 0.5's, even though that's still quite substantial.
Like he himself said, guns don't kill people, people kill people. If he is using 1.5mg xanax gun-ownership is negotiable but at 15mg he shouldn't own a gun period.
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it's my fucking right to own one for whatever reason I want.
You are sane though. People on extreme doses of benzos are prone to bouts of "insanity" that's not seldom violent in ways uncharacteristic of their personalities. If you are on 15mg xanax you shouldn't just not own a gun, you shouldn't be allowed to drive anything beyond a bicycle.
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The point is the government SHOULD NOT CONTROL GUNS
Should every 12yo be able to buy a gun then? Violent offenders? The government has to draw the line somewhere.
It's easy to stuff me in the anti-gunners camp. I'm not, in fact I'm a recreational shooter (airguns & air pistols because of local law here) and if I lived in the US in a risky area then I would probably own some firearms. (a Glock 17 and an AK47 would be my first purchase ) I believe in self defense and home defense. But we all draw a line who should have a gun, and IMHO someone on 15mg xanax should not.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Asante]
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Yes, I apologize, I am on 3 .5's a day. And as soon as my house is payed off, Im buying some farmland.
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FungusMan said: I WILL NOT let the same happen to my new family.
Sounds like the new family’s biggest problem is daddy.
Do you have a wife and kids? If so, then you should understand. If not, then you have no idea. I will do everything, and I mean everything, to protect my baby and wife.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: PJDIDDLE]
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It's all good man, no prob.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
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I gotta admit. You did give me a bit of a startle when I heard you say you were taking 15mg of Xanax per day.
Frankly I was amazed that you were able to write so coherently.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Asante]
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Thanks for the info Wiccan... I thought 15mgs a day would kill someone. Xanax must have a huge dose range! I never took one and probably never will. 
And my sanity is always in question, but I also shoot recreationally, and I can safely handle a weapon. I may be odd, but I'm not going to just off and shoot someone for no real reason.
I just hate seeing people missing the big picture of "gun control" while focusing on every school shooting, accidental death and violent crime... We should have guns because the founders of the country said so... pretty clearly.
The emotional pull of dead children should have no impact on the founding priciples of my country.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7614259 - 11/09/07 09:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, I apologize, I am on 3 .5's a day.
No problem, I'm just very glad you're not on 15mg a day, because that would mean you'd have a very severe substance abuse situation going, as well as an out-of-control anxiety problem.
I hope you realize the condemnation on my part wasn't personal. You use three 0.5's; I hope you can see why I don't want you to have a gun if you were on thirty 0.5's a day.
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Thanks for the info Wiccan... I thought 15mgs a day would kill someone. Xanax must have a huge dose range! I never took one and probably never will.
Well the thing is tolerance here. We have members who are sitting on ounces of pure alprazolam. This kind of unlimited supply can lead to humongous tolerance issues. He said he took three 5's a day. As a seasoned mod of Other Drugs Discussion I had to reckon with the possibility that he had a humongous tolerance, had laid a box of sugar cubes with 5mg apiece and took three of those a day. If he says he takes three times 5, even though it's way out there, I'm going to reckon with the possibility that he in fact does.
It's common that members obfuscate minor facts of posts to avoid self-incrimination - such as saying that he got it on prescription. That could mean that either he messed up dosage info or he's sitting on a pile of illicit alprazolam.
It's not as much that Xanax has a high dose range (it does) but it's tolerance that comes into play, it's like addicted people who shoot a gram of heroin or meth while most people without a tolerance drop dead if injected with 1/10 of that amount.
If a mere mortal without a tolerance swallowed 5mg, they'd either be out there in weirdville or out cold in a deep sleep. I'm a 325lbs guy without a tolerance but I'd be somewhat hesitant to eat a 2mg bar, let alone two and a half of them. 2mg bars aren't meant for normal peoplre, they are meant for people who have a tolerance.
To put Xanax in perspective: On the day they take you from your cell and strap you onto the electric chair they offer you the equivalent of 1mg Xanax. Even when the fear of death is entirely justified they only give a nontolerant person 1mg.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: PJDIDDLE]
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For alprazolam the acute oral LD50 in rats is 331-2171 mg/kg
Problem is that it might well be that what kills one 1lb rat would also kill a 200lbs human.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: Asante]
#7615109 - 11/09/07 12:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Guns are great fun, but I get fucked up too much to keep one around the house to use responsibly. I do hope I get enough time off to go deer hunting in the next couple of weeks.
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: PJDIDDLE]
#7657524 - 11/20/07 01:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just got it Saturday and fellas...I'm in love. Shoots like butter...
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7657631 - 11/20/07 02:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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TIGHT!!!
lets see a pic of j00 with ur new piece!
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: pong]
#7657690 - 11/20/07 03:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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gotta find my camera...brb...
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7657795 - 11/20/07 04:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sry it took so long... This camera sucks, so sorry about the quality...

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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7657815 - 11/20/07 05:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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wow thats a tight gun.
impressive.
are those dimple tipped bullets?
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: pong]
#7657834 - 11/20/07 05:09 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Na, just regular round nosers. Waiting on a shipment of Hydrashocks  Thanks!
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Re: Buying a new .45 [Re: FungusMan]
#7657929 - 11/20/07 06:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Note to FungusMan... keep your finger off the trigger unless you are pointing at a target.
Gun safety 101.
You'll catch shit for that picture on any respected gun forum. 
Nice piece, too.
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RoosterCogburn said: Note to FungusMan... keep your finger off the trigger unless you are pointing at a target.
Gun safety 101.
You'll catch shit for that picture on any respected gun forum. 
Nice piece, too.
I understand the principal behind always treating a gun as if its loaded. But, after spending my whole life around firearms, and in this case: the hammer is down, mag is out, and gun pointed in safe direction, I wasnt presenting any danger. Like I said though, I understand. I did that for "effect" lol. And thanks,btw. I think Ive found my personal favorite handgun model. This thing is built so nice, there isn't any kick really, just some managable recoil. Loud as fuck though,lol.
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