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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7563594 - 10/26/07 02:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Keep us updated.

Yes first understand if is really possible to use bamboo as containers!

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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: FreeSporePrints]
    #7564071 - 10/26/07 05:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Okay check it out, I've re-thought the plan. Instead of using one large diameter bamboo piece, it may look just as cool if I take three or four 3" diameter green bamboo poles, and cut them so that each of the three is slightly smaller than the next. Maybe one could be 24" the next 20" then next 16" and if doing a fourth 12".

Then tie them together using a nice rope and make either a square or rectangle (2 or four poles) arrangement. Then drill fruiting holes only on the places you want it to fruit. Then fill with colonized substrate, leave about three inches or so unfilled. Plug the top with polyfill or something. Oh and use Fabio's idea to drill holes in the bottoms of the base.

Can you envision what I'm trying to describe?


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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7565549 - 10/27/07 01:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I swear I thought about that exact arrangement. Three tied together like this. Maybe in a pot[image][/image]


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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: chojin]
    #7565878 - 10/27/07 05:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Exactly! And I was thinking reishi would be an awesome mushroom for these because it develops (relatively) slowly over a few weeks.
Tight work there man. Thanks.


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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7567015 - 10/27/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Alright, so Ill put up some sketches here by Monday.

Also, I think I kinda see the concentric circles thing, and in my head it looks like a Chinese rice farmer's hat kinda thing. Its cool, but maybe if you kept going further with that idea, you would end up with something that looked just like it.

Also, I will talk to a friend of mine here in India who deals with bamboo A LOT and ask him if he could supply raw bamboo. I would have to ask if he can supply fresh or dried, but if theres anyone who can do it, its him coz he lives in the Northeast of India and theres shit loads of bamboo forests there.

I think keeping the fresh look wouldnt be hard if you painted it like real bamboo, all you need is green stripes painted on (also 3-4 diff shades of green) onto the already yellowed stems.

As for the tops, if you need air exchange, look into filter fabrics that landscapers use, I think I had seen someone mention somewhere that they were using it as a casing layer? That might serve as a layer between the substrate and the capping that you use.

K. Im out, Ill have some stuff up by Monday.

Keep it coming, I love this kind of creative flow.


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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: gmuralid]
    #7568939 - 10/28/07 06:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Okay well yesterday I went out to an amazing bamboo farm. It was just this guy's house in Southwest Miami and he had a decent amount of property - several acres at least. I found him through Craigslist and he calls himself Dr. Bamboo. It's hard to describe the experience, but he said he had over 100 different species growing there, and they were just towering over us. Even in late October South Florida is an easy 85F, and his property was like a nice shaded oasis. Nice rich soil and beautiful green and black bamboos everywhere.

We talked for a while, and I saw the bamboo poles he had already cut. He does not use any kinds of chemical treatments there whatsoever. So that was a relief. But looking at the non-treated bamboo, it was obvious that some pieces had molds growing, and others were kind of dirty ( just from being on the farm - hey I can understand that!). So we talked for a minute and I explained my need for "sterility" and we decided that fresh cut would be the best. He also offered to have the bamboo cut to spec on site. So I explained the idea about the three poles and told him that I could pay around $6-8 for the three pole set of 3" diameter, and lengths of 20" 16" and 12". So he took the middle road and said that he could do it for $7.

So that was pretty cool. I honestly have no idea if it is a good price or not, basically 4 feet of 3" diameter bamboo for $7. I think it is good, but I really know nothing about this, also he is cutting live plants to get this so that raises the value, IMO. They can be cut basically upon ordering, so I get them truly fresh.

He is suggesting that he soak the poles in 5-10% bleach water to pre-clean them. I told him I could steam them, but he wasn't too keen on that idea. Anyway, what do you all think?


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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: gmuralid]
    #7568950 - 10/28/07 07:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, I think I kinda see the concentric circles thing, and in my head it looks like a Chinese rice farmer's hat kinda thing. Its cool, but maybe if you kept going further with  that idea, you would end up with something that looked just like it.





Man that's a good idea! Mini Chinese rice farmer hats, brilliant really :mushroom2: I'd bet I can get those straight from Hong Kong for $0.25 each...Maybe that Oriental Trading Company. I'll have to check their website.


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Also, I will talk to a friend of mine here in India who deals with bamboo A LOT and ask him if he could supply raw bamboo. I would have to ask if he can supply fresh or dried, but if there's anyone who can do it, its him coz he lives in the Northeast of India and there's shit loads of bamboo forests there.




Ask him, you never know, it may be worth my whole to import it. I wouldn't be surprised. Just ask if it can come into the country untreated. I don't know if it can...


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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7573337 - 10/29/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

G'day JD and others, great to see this thread.
In Oz you can get pretty much any size bamboo for free! I've never had any trouble with the price, just that some species are really thick and haevy, and covered in little needle like fibres.

After mucking around with a few sorts on the last place I lived, I thought splitting the bamboo in half vertically could be the go. Easy to fill both sides, then put them back together, tie them up to secure, and either leave them for the mycelium to join together, or paint with hot bees wax-that should kill anything on the outer surface.

Bamboo explodes when heated, if its still sealed. If you cut in half vertically, you could fill with substrate, close it up, and pasteurise or sterilise. A few holes in each section for inoculation and fruiting...

I'm just about to leave a bamboo forest to move to what's pretty much desert, so keep at it so I can learn from your mistakes and succeses.


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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: worowa]
    #7576607 - 10/30/07 01:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ok.

Here are some ideas. The arrangement is exactly as Chojin shows, and you agreed is good.



This second one is the two capping arrangements, one with the bamboo section of larger diameter with a node to cap it, and the second is the rice hat.



Looks like if you had the rice hat, you might need more space between the three fruiting sections perhaps with some kind of wood dowels or something.


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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: gmuralid]
    #7576632 - 10/30/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Oh and I spoke to my friend, he is going to have a sit down with me tommorrow and well figure out costing so we can work below the 7$ mark for what you have already.

Well have to calculate shipping also, and once I have the numbers straight, Ill let you know if it seems doable.

Oh and I really love the banana stem with pink oysters on your site. Great idea, and I have loads of banana stems lying around on the road here so I am going to pick some up. Have any oyster varieties in spawn or spores you could send me? I should be getting some from FSP but would love to expand my repertoire and species to mess with.

I like the ideas you are coming up with for your organization and the org itself. Cool. :smile:

K. Ill let you know when I have more.

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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: gmuralid]
    #17811878 - 02/16/13 06:29 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Hello... big old bump to this one.. only because it is entirely relevant of course.

I've been reading shroomery.org now for at least the past 6-12 months while growing a variety of shrooms.

I've got some bamboo in my polytunnel I used for a hydroponic setup [cut out the middle 'corks' in them]. .  then drilled holes in them with plants in the holes and drippers in them - It worked okay but the bamboo got a bit leaky and sodden.

Anyway, so I've now got these old manky bits of bamboo lying around and I recently bought some turkey tails, reishi and lung oysters.. I've been reading about growing them in wood, but would love to grow them in the bamboo to make use of it.

My bamboo are about 4-5 foot long and about 4-5 inches in diameter. I was wondering weather to half them (length way), and use some of the stood upright designs here, maybe with some pebbles underneath them.. you know, so it looks all pretty :smile:

BUT - and this where I need some help here, my bamboo is old, pretty sodden, sinky and horrible. So, a long - long way away from sterile.

BUT - having watched Paul Stamets use mycelium to breakdown oil.. and also breakdown chemicals in rivers (?) . . he seemed to have what looks like floating tights.. and thinking, mushrooms are the primary decomposers, eating the dead.. surely I can get some mushrooms to grow in this bamboo and just get to work on it ?

My idea was to get a bulk amount of grain colonized [rye], like a buckets worth or something, then break it up and just tip it into the bamboo with like 30-40% new substrate, cover it for say 3-4 weeks then remove the cover and let them fruit.

Maybe this sounds absolutely mental, crazy, stupid idea.. I don't know. All I've done so far is BRF cakes but am desperate to get onto some gourmet edibles !

Looking forward to hearing anyone elses thoughts.


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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #17814643 - 02/16/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm not sure what this  bird nest was made out of. Mrs Rabbit found it at a craft store and I stole it from her as soon as she got home. It was good for a few laughs though. :wink:
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This is just too funny.:grin: My wife would have had a fit if I did that to her bird house.


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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: mycofever]
    #18823803 - 09/10/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not sure what this  bird nest was made out of. Mrs Rabbit found it at a craft store and I stole it from her as soon as she got home. It was good for a few laughs though. :wink:
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This is just too funny.:grin: My wife would have had a fit if I did that to her bird house.




Id be happy to make or find a few for her just so you can! As long as you grow me some of whats growing on this one! :smile:


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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: Fuzziness]
    #18823871 - 09/10/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Hello... big old bump to this one.. only because it is entirely relevant of course.





Of course.

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My bamboo are about 4-5 foot long and about 4-5 inches in diameter. I was wondering weather to half them (length way), and use some of the stood upright designs here, maybe with some pebbles underneath them.. you know, so it looks all pretty :smile:

BUT - and this where I need some help here, my bamboo is old, pretty sodden, sinky and horrible. So, a long - long way away from sterile.





Id say if you keep them as is and fill them with the spawn/substrate, they would have an easier time colonizing than if you half the bamboo. They should fruit straight out of your plant holes.

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Fuzziness said:surely I can get some mushrooms to grow in this bamboo and just get to work on it ?





Surely. :smile:

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My idea was to get a bulk amount of grain colonized [rye], like a buckets worth or something, then break it up and just tip it into the bamboo with like 30-40% new substrate, cover it for say 3-4 weeks then remove the cover and let them fruit.




Concepts drawn up above are for exactly that sort of process. Would be great if you tested this out. I haven't gotten to it yet. Been building with my bamboo, and the rest is firewood when I need it. 

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Re: Using Bamboo and other decorative containers for fruiting - ideas wanted please [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #25416855 - 08/27/18 01:36 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Happy Bird :sun:


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