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Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU]
    #7556829 - 10/24/07 08:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide
October 25, 2007 - news.com.au

DRUG users will move from ecstasy towards hallucinogenic drugs in search of "spiritual enlightenment", Adelaide drug researcher David Caldicott says.

Dr Caldicott said people use drugs for specific "self-medicating" reasons and those reasons are changing.

He said while more research into shifting drug trends needed to be done, Australian users tended to follow European trends.

In Europe, they are turning off "pills" and tuning in to more "mystical" highs, he said.

People use such "hug drugs" as ecstasy – known as entactogenic drugs – to get a feeling of love and intimacy with others, he said.

Now, more people are looking for a spiritual or religious experience and are turning to such hallucinogenic drugs as LSD or others derived from plants – cacti and mushrooms – which are known as entheogenic drugs.

Many are legal and available in the wild, in gardens and online.

"Young people are looking for reason, for insight," Dr Caldicott said. "One of the things that defines generations X and Y is a lack of belief in organised or formal religion and there is a large section of the drug community looking for spiritual enlightenment.

"Entheogenic drugs are compounds, frequently biological, that create or mimic the spiritual experience."

He said many of these drugs are plants, which will create an "interesting problem" for law enforcement. Entactogenic drugs include ecstasy MDA, MDE and 2CB.

Entheogenic drugs include datura, "magic" mushrooms (psilocybin), salvia divinorum, some cacti and many other plants that various cultures have put to religious or shamanic uses.

While seizures of LSD have been up slightly, Detective Inspector Craig Patterson said police had not noticed a trend towards entheogenic drugs in SA.

"Not that we've picked up," he said. "It may be more on a national scale but we have actually noticed ecstasy seizures are up slightly".

He said it could be that current investigations focused more on ecstasy and amphetamines than on psychedelic drugs.


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: veggie]
    #7556925 - 10/24/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

wow. thats interesting. so people are moving from trying to have a good time, to actually using entheogens for spiritual purposes?


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #7557059 - 10/24/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This needs to happen around the globe


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: Continuum]
    #7557075 - 10/24/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i have a feeling were onto another psychedelic revolution. its about time with all this rediculous shit going on in the world.


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: Continuum]
    #7557136 - 10/24/07 09:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Continuum said:
This needs to happen around the globe




it probley will.


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: veggie]
    #7557257 - 10/24/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Datura is an entheogen? I wonder how many people are going to read that article and then go try it.


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: Mr_DeeMsTer]
    #7557326 - 10/24/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Mr_DeeMsTer said:
i have a feeling were onto another psychedelic revolution. its about time with all this rediculous shit going on in the world.




:yesnod:


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: Quake3]
    #7557335 - 10/24/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Brace yourselves, people can't believe people with absolute power forever!


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: Chi Ro]
    #7557445 - 10/24/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

To me when I'm on psychedelics I feel like that is how the world should be. It feels so right and natural and I would encourage anyone to try  psychedelics but not to get "fucked up", thats what beers for, to look into your soul and realize that people are inherently good. I can really see how  psychedelics are used for depession it just makes me feel so good and helps me realize all the good things that happen in my life even if there's not much positive things going on.Also it's a lot easier to eat shrooms every now and then, rather than going to church every Sunday.  :2cents:

P.S. I think the word "shrooms" should be added to the shroomery dictionary. I mean it is in the title, Thanks mods for such a cool site, it really has helped me open my mind :thanx:


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: Quake3]
    #7557465 - 10/24/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Quake3 said:
Datura is an entheogen? I wonder how many people are going to read that article and then go try it.




isn't datura a deliriant. is it still a psychedelics?

i think people will head towards psychedelics like mushrooms, mescaline, marijuana, and dmt. probley acid too.


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7557817 - 10/25/07 01:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The ingredients are all there, we just need a few influential people to really get things going.  :thumbup:


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: Flugon_Nine]
    #7557931 - 10/25/07 03:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Datura is an Entheogen.

Anyway thats pretty cool. Sadly shit like this will never happen in America. People are into repression here. Either Pharmacy pills to treat mental problems brought on by their own shit. Or Meth to give them the ultamite/cheap ego boost.

Ever since i got arrested ive been going to alot of anti drug people and meetings. Im the only guy ive met thats main drug is hallucinogens. Everyone says "I didnt like Mushrooms....I thought everyone was looking at me".

That was said multiple times by numerous people. I now believe America doesnt like insight or Spiritual shit. Because its not all fun.

Now shut the fuck up while i put some more shards in the pizzo


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
    #7557968 - 10/25/07 04:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hopefully it goes state wide, into nsw :laugh: :laugh:


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: deXtrous]
    #7558153 - 10/25/07 07:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

America is having real problems with pills.Its even making the news. Everybody is on them!! Amazing. In the US they will never crack down on it. The simple fact is that too many people are making $ on it. Pharmacutical stocks would drop big time. Now we wouldn't want that to happen! LOL

It's all bs. They law cracks down on one thing, another thing gets popular. The law asks for more $$ to fight it.


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: LoWgRoW]
    #7558216 - 10/25/07 07:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

pharmacuiticals are everywhere in the US. hard to crackdown whent he kingpin is legal aint it?


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7558457 - 10/25/07 09:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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LayYouIn said:
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Continuum said:
This needs to happen around the globe




it probley will.




I worry about relatively under-the-radar drugs like LSD and mushrooms attracting public scrutiny if there is a spike in usage. With the recent banning of mushrooms in Holland, I don't want to hear any more about mushrooms in the mainstream news.


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Re: Mystical drugs to hit Adelaide [AU] [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7564004 - 10/26/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed Whiskey.

We will have to see what happens...
I'm all for a spiritual revolution though :thumbup:


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