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What does destruction of the ego mean?
    #7556694 - 10/24/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I once when I was sick with a fever I was "reborn",I swear that's how it felt like.Well anyways,is that destruction of the ego?


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: reptie7]
    #7556868 - 10/24/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well basically starting over, when I had the most devestating trip of ego loss ever it was not fun. I almost felt like how God must of felt. Its like I just woke up, in pitch black. Noone around, No universe or life has been created. Just lonelyness and not knowing what to do or how to do it. Was definetly not very fun. that only lasted about half an hour though.

Their are always very different varations of ego loss, I have had great trips with ego loss, but the trip posted above was definetly the most extreme feeling i've ever had in that area.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: reptie7]
    #7556872 - 10/24/07 08:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The smart ass answer to your question is
"who would be asking?" if it really was the destruction of your ego.

Self constantly changes, but we are usually too asleep to notice
this ongoing activity and therefore experience the world as more solid...than "it" is...

By the way Ted Bundy was a nut and a fool, why quote him?
Power over others does not make one a God...it just shows
that one's another deluded person like all the dictators of history.
The need for this feeling of "power" comes from insecurity.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: laughingdog]
    #7556883 - 10/24/07 08:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Good point you got there,but he was a legend so fourth.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: reptie7]
    #7556911 - 10/24/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think the ego in this sense means your identity, your sense of self. So i think it means losing all sense of self.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: reptie7]
    #7556912 - 10/24/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah dude if I were you I'd change my quote. Ted Bundy's a legend but...kinda for the wrong reasons.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: DimensionX]
    #7556919 - 10/24/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Got it..Thanks.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: reptie7]
    #7556942 - 10/24/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

there is no line. it can happen any number of ways. once yu understand how your ego works ou can start to let it drift. meditation is key for trying to understand the prosses of ego ditachment. not that phychadelics dont help mind you. but you have to go about it in a pure mind set.


i have had my ego destroyed by
rippping, swirling, washing, floating

often times it will even happen to me as i just take a mient to gaze off. suddlty im lost in the silly fractalness of it all and down the tube i go, only to pop right back into "me" space again.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: reptie7]
    #7556959 - 10/24/07 08:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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reptie7 said:
What does destruction of the ego mean?



Loss of connection with one's inner self/being, obliteration of identity, smashing the foundations of who were are and leaving it behind. Transcendence to a higher frequency of thought, one reality left behind and another reality born. Lost in the depths of one's mind, sinking to the bottom. Spiritually separated from oneself, lost within uncharted regions of the human psyche beyond ego and identity = ego death.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: Robo]
    #7556983 - 10/24/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What if someone can feel like that when they want?What are the cons?


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: reptie7]
    #7556998 - 10/24/07 09:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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reptie7 said:
What if someone can feel like that when they want?



You mean by choice, just out of nowhere? (ego suicide :wink:)


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: Robo]
    #7557042 - 10/24/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Of choice you silly goose.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: reptie7]
    #7557074 - 10/24/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know if anyone can just separate from their ego at free will. Not to the extent I'm referring to at least (heavy spiritual separation from oneself, the kind induced by psychedelics). There are many levels and degrees of what you could call "ego death", the kind brought on by mystical experience being the highest degree. I don't think that someone could just snap into the dimension whenever they chose to, unless you a master of meditation, shamanism, etc.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: Robo]
    #7557108 - 10/24/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting.........So forth.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: reptie7]
    #7557140 - 10/24/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It is interesting actually, there are some out there that train for the longest time through meditation and mental exercises to be able to attain a higher state of being naturally, and not by chemical means. (Such as Hindu Holymen, I believe.)

Whether they truly reach this state they train to achieve, I don't know....


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: Robo]
    #7557480 - 10/24/07 11:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If your brain hemmorhages, you lost too much ego :frown:


Edited by Ophanim (06/16/09 08:45 PM)


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: Ophanim]
    #7557504 - 10/24/07 11:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'll take the high road and you take the low road :grin:


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: Robo]
    #7557514 - 10/24/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lawlkakes


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: Ophanim]
    #7557527 - 10/24/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Actually I prefer a mix of the two.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: Ophanim]
    #7557530 - 10/24/07 11:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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ZeeMox said:That's something that fascinates me. I know people that claim to have done enough hallucinogenic drugs to be able to activate small trip-like elements at will. I wonder if this is simply the state that certain religious individuals obtain through natural mind mastery, and if getting there through such means would be more of a trek and less of a ride.



I think it would be more of a trek (to train oneself to induce states of egolessness through meditative practices) because a trek is ignited internally. A 'ride', or a hallucinogenic trip, can bring one to states of egolessness externally. It would seem the former requires more focus and initiative than the latter; and perhaps that's true. But this doesn't detract from the significance or validity of psychedelic-induced egolessness. Great question...


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7557561 - 10/24/07 11:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Personally, I think "destruction" is a rather violent term for what happens to the ego during an intense psychedelic experience. It seems to me more like a simple separation of the consciousness from the ego; during especially intense experiences, actual dialogue can occur between the two halves of cognition. They are independent (and still very active), rather than synergizing as in everyday life.

Take your pick, destruction or separation, but consciousness is definitely freed of much influence from the ego during the trip.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: reptie7]
    #7557631 - 10/25/07 12:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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What if someone can feel like that when they want?What are the cons?




I cant feel complete ego loss at will, but one con is that once you have felt it to some extent your ego can feel almost like a foreign element, an almost schitzophrenic state of being, because i feel the "personality" to be a defined set of rules, where as my awarness has no real limits, almost feels like two seperate parts of myself. So it can be hard to intergrate. Its not a completely negative thing, but it can be confusing.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: DimensionX]
    #7558175 - 10/25/07 07:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think I came close to ego death on my last 'shroom trip. I think the reason it didn't happen is because I'm too much of a narcissist and way too egotistical to let that happen.


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Re: What does destruction of the ego mean? [Re: reptie7]
    #7558886 - 10/25/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It really depends on what your idea of the ego is. People toss the term "ego loss" around as if it's a very clear cut, set-in-stone experience. This just isn't the case.

Some people consider tripping to such an intensity that they don't know their own name to constitute ego loss. Others see it as an experience that is very painful, resembling a real and physical death. Then there's the idea that ego loss can be a very liberating and enlightening experience. None of these ideas is right or wrong- people simply have different experiences and interpret them in different ways.

I consider the ego to be the socially constructed part of you that is constantly concerned with seeking the approval of others and trying to convince itself that it is useful and worthwhile. In contrast, I believe people also possess a clearer, true self- that part of you that realises you are nothing more than a single part of the all.

Ego loss can be either positive or negative. The most fantastic experience of my life involved what I would consider a pleasant ego loss. When I first took LSD, it was as if all the negativity and socially conditioned aspects of my self were gone, and all that was left was this point of awareness- like a single flower in the midst of a pool of infinite light.

Generally, ego loss involves a period of rather intense fear as the ego totally melts away, and once the ego is gone, you enter a state of temporary enlightenment. However, as I previously said, the term is used as a label for a wide variety of experiences which, as always, are highly dependent on the experiencer.

Ego loss, for me, is the moment wherein you exist only as the sum of your perceptions and experiences. If consciousness is defined as "awareness of awareness", ego loss is the time in which the only existence is awareness itself- the person having these experiences is no longer there as only perception is real.

Ego loss means different things for different people, and it's not something you necessarily need to chase after. In very basic terms, what ego loss means for me is the moment in which you realise that the self is not an isolated, solitary thing, but simply one part of the eternal infinite that is reality. You exist as a single thread in the pattern of life, so to speak.


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