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wow im high...i messed up. do i have to start over??
    #7556455 - 10/24/07 08:51 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

so when pasturizing the casing layer, i didnt put any water in it, will it be ok or should i add water to it and bake for another hour?


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Re: wow im high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: knotty]
    #7556464 - 10/24/07 08:54 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

...uh, it might be helpful to know what you're "baking".


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Re: wow im high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7556469 - 10/24/07 08:56 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

50/50 verm/peat moss


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Re: wow im high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: knotty]
    #7556472 - 10/24/07 08:57 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

and myself as we speak...


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Re: wow im high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: knotty]
    #7556474 - 10/24/07 08:58 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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that made me chuckle
I personally would start over


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Re: wow im high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: knotty]
    #7556478 - 10/24/07 08:59 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Yea...... you need to have your casing mix hydrated and ready to go, then you pasteurize it. Sorry


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Re: wow im high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: mikeytro]
    #7556495 - 10/24/07 09:04 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Any heat should be wet heat. Surrounding your casing mix with hot air won't help it. Start over indeed.


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Re: wow im high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7556508 - 10/24/07 09:06 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

you can pasteurize in the oven....


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Re: wow im high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: mikeytro]
    #7556528 - 10/24/07 09:10 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

ok so i added some water and put in the oven...my oven wont go below 170 so thats what it is set at. im now on my way to local walmart to look for some pickeling lime. add addded enought water where it looked damp. i couldnt squeek any water out or anything, but it looked rather damp. well off to wally world.


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Re: wow im high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: knotty]
    #7556550 - 10/24/07 09:16 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

when you squeeze lightly water should drop down
I hope your using jars or something since your pasteurizing in the oven...


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Re: wow im high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: knotty]
    #7556616 - 10/24/07 09:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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ok so i added some water and put in the oven...my oven wont go below 170 so thats what it is set at. im now on my way to local walmart to look for some pickeling lime. add addded enought water where it looked damp. i couldnt squeek any water out or anything, but it looked rather damp. well off to wally world.




There you go again! Why do you mess with the final product?


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Re: wow im high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7556663 - 10/24/07 09:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

ok so i got this pickling lime shit...only 2 dollars..not bad anyways..how am i supposed to use this shit anyways? i used roughly 6 cups of verm and peat. the pickling lime is 16oz.


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Re: wow I'm high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: mikeytro]
    #7556691 - 10/24/07 09:55 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

You're going to want a P.H buffer for the peat moss, verm alone will not lower the acidity of it, I'm fairly certain it lays around the 8.1.9.1 level which is overly high for mycelium, adding some powdered eggshells, oyster shells or lime will help buffer it to the desired 6.1.7.2 P.H levels that is best.

A casing layer overly high in acidity will cause many aborts and the mycelium does not take very well to it.

Oh, and no, you need water when pasteurizing. This is what helps bring your casing layer up to Field capacity :smile:


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Re: wow I'm high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7556718 - 10/24/07 10:00 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: wow I'm high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
    #7557056 - 10/24/07 11:17 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

lol, :whack:.... it should be fine when all is said and done. I pasturize in the oven aswell in a LARGE pan I got from work. double foil it and put it in for about 1-3 hours at 170.

dont forget to put water in it again :grin:


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Re: wow I'm high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: Funkatron9000]
    #7557139 - 10/24/07 11:31 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I try not to smoke when I'm fuckin with my shroom shit because I always mess up haha, the other day I had a full syringe and I was trying to pull it back a little to get air into it so I could shake it, but I ended up pulling the whole thing out and all the spores fell onto my counter.


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Re: wow I'm high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7557158 - 10/24/07 11:34 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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You're going to want a P.H buffer for the peat moss, verm alone will not lower the acidity of it, I'm fairly certain it lays around the 8.1.9.1 level which is overly high for mycelium, adding some powdered eggshells, oyster shells or lime will help buffer it to the desired 6.1.7.2 P.H levels that is best.

A casing layer overly high in acidity will cause many aborts and the mycelium does not take very well to it.

Oh, and no, you need water when pasteurizing. This is what helps bring your casing layer up to Field capacity :smile:




I'm confused. Peat moss is acidic, and a ph of 8 is basic.


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Re: wow I'm high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7557615 - 10/25/07 02:18 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

No, a pH of 7 is neutral. Peat is acidic, but mushroom mycelium actually prefers acidic conditions. That's not the reason we lime casings. We lime to help prevent contaminants that also like acidic conditions, but are less tolerant of sweeter substrates than mushroom mycelium.
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Re: wow I'm high...i messed up. do i have to start over?? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7558929 - 10/25/07 01:49 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

ok so a added some lime pickling bullshit to some water and misted the casing before applying, noone answered me about how much to add so i put about a tablespoon, some water, turned into a nice white liquid, just mixed it in or whatever, hope it doestn effect in a bad way. so with my first casings i tried to slice the myc evenly and place into 12qt dishpans(wolly world baby $1.14) i put about 2- 2.5qt into each pan and layered with a very very thin casing. probally just enought to cover the myc and make it as even as possible, one thing i noticed after i saran wrapped is the mositure level could have been a little greater, will this effect colognization the next couple days, or should it be ok with a misting of two after i check on it in a couple days??


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