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Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China...
    #7556327 - 10/24/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/7-10-24/61147.html

The last 2 paragraphs are not for the faint of heart... I am appalled at the total disrespect of human life.. the Olympics are gonna be held in China next year... this is not right!


Man Brutally Tortured To Death in Jilin Prison
By Xie Zhenghua
Epoch Times Staff Oct 24, 2007


The main entrance of Jilin Prison. (The Epoch Times)
When 46-year-old Cao Hongyan was sent to the Jilin Railway Hospital on Oct. 8 by the Jilin Prison authorities in Jilin City, he was near death. He was declared dead at 5:50 a.m. on Oct. 9. Cao, a Falun Gong practitioner, had been sentenced to eight years in prison for his refusal to denounce the practice of Falun Gong. The police claimed Cao had died from cerebral hemorrhage. However, a doctor from the hospital said that cerebral examination was never done on Cao.

Cao was already unconscious when he was sent to the Jilin Railway Hospital on Oct. 8, as reported by Minghui Net (minghui.org). When his family arrived at the hospital, they discovered that Cao had been given oxygen and fluid transfusion. As he lay still on his hospital bed, his family observed that his left eye was closed, his right eye was half open and his mouth was open. He died at 5:50 a.m. on Oct. 9. As family members were changing clothes for him, blood flowed from his mouth. Family members noted large purple bruise marks on his legs and chest. When his family asked for the cause of the death, police said that it was due to a cerebral hemorrhage. "We didn't say cerebral hemorrhage caused his death, we didn't even perform a cerebral examination," said hospital doctors. Cao's remains were hastily cremated on the same day as he died.

Cao was from Zuojia Township, Changyi District of Jilin City. Cao and his family have been persecuted many times by local police since the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) launched a crackdown on Falun Gong in July 1999.

In September 1999, Cao and his wife went to Beijing to appeal for the fair treatment of Falun Gong practitioners. They were arrested and escorted to their hometown by the Yongji County Politics and Security Section. They were imprisoned at the Yongji County Detention Center for over 40 days. During their detention, most meals consisted of mouldy corn flour and cabbage soup with insects and dirt. Even so, the police extorted 2,900 yuan (US$350.36) for food expenses from the couple.

In 2000, Cao and his wife were reported to the police when they talked to neighbors about the CCP's persecution of Falun Gong practitioners. Police broke into their home, arrested the couple and forced them to sign confessions. After that, they were taken to the Changyi District Detention Center for 15 days. When released, they were forced to attend brainwashing classes.

In February 2001, the police forced the couple to attend additional brainwashing classes. They were illegally detained for over 40 days with insufficient food intake. Cao's wife was unable to eat and had recurrent vomiting for several days, but she was not provided with medical care. After escaping from the brainwashing class, the couple became homeless. Their young children were left by the police to fend for themselves.

In 2002, Cao was arrested by Yangjiaweizi police station of Changchun City. He was sentenced to eight years in prison. While in Jilin Prison, Cao conducted a hunger strike to protest his imprisonment. During this time he was locked up in a small cell [1] and tied to a "Stretching Bed [2]."

Around October 2004, Cao was sent to the Jilin Railway Hospital for emergency treatment. When family members arrived at the hospital, they noted that his legs were swollen and his facial muscles were cramping and twitching.

Before Cao, Jilin Prison had abused and tortured many Falun Gong practitioners to death. Of those Falun Gong practitioners who did not die while in Jilin prison, many have become permanently disabled.

"Very few Falun Gong practitioners can survive Jilin Prison," said one insider.

Note: [1] The detainee is locked up in a very small cell individually. The guards handcuff practitioners on their back in a fixed position, in which the practitioners can neither move nor lie down. The small cell is very damp and no sunshine comes in. Detainees have to urinate and defecate in the cell. Only half of a regular meal is served to detainees locked up in a small cell during the daytime. The stench in the small cell is so bad that it is difficult to breathe.

[2] The guards fix the detainnee's limbs on a specially made bed on which there are four rings. The person's hands and feet are fixed in the rings. Then the police apply force to the rings, so that his or her body will be pulled up away from the bed as their limbs are stretched. If more force is exerted, one will pass out in a few seconds. If one is left in this position for more than ten minutes, all his/her muscle and bones in the limbs will be dislocated and the person will be disabled permanently. Moreover, the guards forbid others to take care of the disabled practitioners. After the person is pulled up off the bed and the limbs are stretched, the police strike the joints with small rubber mallets until the joints become bruised and extremely sore.


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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: chodamunky]
    #7556402 - 10/24/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Demonstartion in New York City to raise awareness about it. Pretty cool of them:



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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: JunkFood]
    #7556671 - 10/24/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Okay I'm hate the Chinese government as much as the next guy but do you realize what Fa Lun Gong is? It's a fucked cult. One of the things they believe in is that you don't need to go to the doctor for any reasons, you can simply do their excercise and heal yourself...

And that's not the most outlandish thing they believe either. They believe some fucked up shit about the end of the world, which they believe is happening right now.

The leader of this cult is in the U.S right now, and making a shit load of money off these gullible people.


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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: JunkFood]
    #7556716 - 10/24/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Those protesters are always around City Hall, definitely eye-and-attention- catching.


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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
    #7556762 - 10/24/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like Chinese Scientology.


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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: Innominate]
    #7556879 - 10/24/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

does that mean they should be brutally beaten?


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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: Xeluc]
    #7556938 - 10/24/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I never said or implied that it did, I was only commenting on "the practice of Falun Gong". kthx


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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
    #7556969 - 10/24/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hey I'm just gonna have to rip on you a little here..

Okay I'm hate the Chinese government as much as the next guy but do you realize what Fa Lun Gong is?

You think by saying you hate the Chinese government by comparing yourself to some made up person in your head, it justifies this utter non-sense you type next?.....


It's a fucked cult. One of the things they believe in is that you don't need to go to the doctor for any reasons, you can simply do their excercise and heal yourself...

You know, my neighbours do these excercises in the morning in their backyard, and occasionally I will see an older oriental lady in the park going through the movements, which to my humble eyes look very graceful, peaceful, flowing, balanced...hell I could see myself trying it someday.. as to the 'not going to the doctor comment'... I don't know enough about Falun Gong to outright deny this statement, but I will say that if you exercise regularly then your need to see a doctor reduces dramatically.

And that's not the most outlandish thing they believe either. They believe some fucked up shit about the end of the world, which they believe is happening right now.

What IS outlandish is your complete ignorance on the subject, though you try to pass off your ramblings as something you know. About the world ending... are you aware of the major political, environmental, and social problems happening in the world right now? Of course you are... dude the world is not ending but sometimes it sure feels like it.

The leader of this cult is in the U.S right now, and making a shit load of money off these gullible people.

What the hell are you talking about, there is no 'membership' to this so called 'cult'. The only way he probably makes a living is by writing books about the teachings.



You need to do some more research man, I'm no expert but dude you gotta think for yourself. To start you off, read this from Wikipedia:

Falun Gong teaches that the Fa or "Buddha Law" can be summarized in three words – Zhen 真, Shan 善 and Ren 忍, which translate approximately as 'truthfulness, benevolence (or compassion), and forbearance'. The process of cultivation is said to be one in which the practitioner assimilates himself or herself to Zhen, Shan and Ren. The teachings of Falun Dafa are articulated in the two main books of the practice, Falun Gong and Zhuan Falun[1].

Falun Gong is an introductory book that discusses qigong, introduces the principles and provides illustrations and explanations of the exercises. Zhuan Falun is the core text of Falun Dafa practice.[34]

Falun Gong lays emphasis on its ideas of good moral nature and morality. Practitioners are required to emphasize virtue (de), be a good person in all environments, and always be considerate of others when doing things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_gong


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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: chodamunky]
    #7556982 - 10/24/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

chodamunky said:
What IS outlandish is your complete ignorance on the subject, though you try to pass off your ramblings as something you know. About the world ending... are you aware of the major political, environmental, and social problems happening in the world right now? Of course you are... dude the world is not ending but sometimes it sure feels like it. 




So what are you arguing here again?  :rolleyes:


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    #7556984 - 10/24/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah man, I should have quoted SymmetryGroup8. Sry bout that man.


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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: chodamunky]
    #7556989 - 10/24/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Its fucking horrible whats going on over there. And its probably not going to change any time soon...
Demonstrators were handing out pamflets about it not too long ago, more people need to hear about it.


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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: eligal]
    #7557183 - 10/24/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I know for a fact that there is membership in this cult, at least for the Chinese members. They send a crap load of money to the leader Li Hongzhi whatever his name is...

This guy takes different things from both Taoism and Buddhism and combine them in a totally lunatic manner... It's a total joke, as a Chinese speaker, to listen to the crap he preaches.

I'm not against people believing this stuff at all, more power to them.

However, what I believe is that their beliefs are totally like a cult, totally wacked out.

Also, one can talk a lot of shit about the Chinese government, but the U.S government has done some similar things to suppress cults deemed harmful to general society; Waco for example.

Fa Lun Gong is a cult... Just my opinion.

As for what I said about the Chinese government, I hate them LOL. Fuck the Chinese government!

And why am I even talk about a cult? I'm a fucking atheist for Christ's sake.


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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
    #7557337 - 10/24/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This is fucked up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong

From the sounds of it, the practice isnt that different from a number of other eastern spiritual practices. I wonder why the gov of China is so set on destroying this one in particular.


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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: The_Ghost]
    #7557389 - 10/24/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Why? Because the Chinese government was scared shitless back in the late 90's when this thing was starting to get big.

Because alot of Chinese people started to follow this cult, at one point there were like 50 million followers, 50 million followers of some religious cult scare the shit out them. That's one of the reason for the hardcore crack down.

The thing is, after some initial crack downs, some of the Fa Lun Gon followers started showing up in front of the Chinese government residences, and some committed suicide and burned themselves to death. This is the cause of a vicious cycle, leading to the Chinese government getting more scared, so now they have all out war on the Fa Lun Gong guys.

Actually I don't know what I'm talking... I just blabbering, I'm stoned right now...

What I just said makes sense in my own mind... But I haven't done any sort of research to back up what I'm saying... so I'm just talking out of my ass.

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    #7557403 - 10/24/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't care enough to dig up some of the strange shit the leader says, but from the Wiki I give you this quote:

Extraterrestrial life

Li Hongzhi said in a TIMEasia interview, that he believes aliens from other planets and dimensions have corrupted people's minds and are making humans go to war with each other. According to Li, these aliens manipulate humans into making scientific breakthroughs so that people will move away from spirituality and more towards science. Their ultimate aim, Li claims, is to replace human beings because the human body is the most perfect in the universe.[2]

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That's some whacked out cultish shit right there...

It's a combination of pseudo science, semi religious ramblings... Pure bullshit to fool people into give him a shit load of money.

Typical cult shit. Heck, typical religious shit.



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Re: Falun Gong followers are tortured/beat to death in China... [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
    #7557735 - 10/25/07 01:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the aliens will make people move away from science to spirituality. sounds like your typical cult BULLSHIT to me. whether or not it was a cult doesnt matter, that is FUCKED UP of the chinese government.


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