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Offlineallreadyused
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Re: Corporate Drug Testing a Violation of Constitutional Privacy [Re: wps]
    #7559008 - 10/25/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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wps said:
corporate drug testing is just another form of cultural bias in the job market, ie moneyed conservatives using their economic resources to starve out anyone that doesn't fit into their idea of what the average worker should be.

If you get drunk after work everyday and watch football, you're hired.

If you smoke pot and go to drum jams... no employment for you.

the end result is that a certain type of worker flourishes, and anyone else starves.




I agree. I've always found it ironic that most of the work I've missed over the years was due almost exclusively to hangovers never due to drug use. These were jobs where I passed the pre employment drug test for using fake piss. It would be kind of funny because after I miss a day and come back and people would ask me where I was and I tell them I was hungover. They all laugh and make a big joke about it. But if I tell them I came in high today or smoked a bowl on my lunch brake it's a big deal. Just another unproductive pointless double standard of society.


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Re: Corporate Drug Testing a Violation of Constitutional Privacy [Re: wps]
    #7559123 - 10/25/07 12:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

All this time I'm thinking about TESTING DRUGS... not DRUG TESTING

Yeah, I was gonna say something, but I was stoned at the time and wasn't sure which of us was confused. :bigweed:


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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Corporate Drug Testing a Violation of Constitutional Privacy [Re: Diploid]
    #7559605 - 10/25/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I wasn't gonna stop him. He was on a roll.

If you don't like a company's drug policy DON'T WORK THERE.


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Re: Corporate Drug Testing a Violation of Constitutional Privacy [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7559630 - 10/25/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

There was a health insurance company I heard of a few years ago that told employees who SMOKED that they had 1 year to quit.. after that they'd get canned..

Now... thre's a really grey area....


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Re: Corporate Drug Testing a Violation of Constitutional Privacy [Re: BrAiN]
    #7559642 - 10/25/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Not grey at all. It's their company, they can do whatever they want.


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Re: Corporate Drug Testing a Violation of Constitutional Privacy [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7559844 - 10/25/07 04:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with "its their decision" mentality. No one's forcing them to be employees.

but depends... if it's a public company or not. Couldn't that kind of company have a stockholder vote to veto something like that


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Re: Corporate Drug Testing a Violation of Constitutional Privacy [Re: BrAiN]
    #7559857 - 10/25/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe. I doubt they would though.


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Re: Corporate Drug Testing a Violation of Constitutional Privacy [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7559898 - 10/25/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Depends on how many sympathetic stock holders are smokers :wink:


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Re: Corporate Drug Testing a Violation of Constitutional Privacy [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7561502 - 10/26/07 12:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Not grey at all. It's their company, they can do whatever they want.




I'm excited for when Hillary care denies coverage for smokers.


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Re: Corporate Drug Testing a Violation of Constitutional Privacy [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7562014 - 10/26/07 07:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That's the point where I'll get pretty pissed. I'm not a smoker anymore, but this whole social engineering bullshit that the Democrats try to pull.. pisses me off.


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Re: Corporate Drug Testing a Violation of Constitutional Privacy [Re: BrAiN]
    #7562351 - 10/26/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Conservatives pull that shit too, they just don't use the government as much to do it.


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Re: Corporate Drug Testing a Violation of Constitutional Privacy [Re: wps]
    #7563077 - 10/26/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Conservatives just try to amend the constitution with their social engineering ideas.


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