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dumb ass ingorant fucks
#7555827 - 10/24/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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some kids in my pysch class were telling me that "the reason you trip on shrooms is cuz its food poisoning" to which I replied "no, it is not food poisoning you're a fucking idiot" which they said "no, the reaction in your body is the same as when you get food poisoning, which is why you throw up." so apparently i'm an idiot for not believing this? And when I gave them proof that they were wrong they're so damn stubborn and just say random shit like "yeah well you're just a stupid druggie that doesn't know anything"
to hell with these people!
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maybe one of em will die of alcohol poisoning before the class ends.
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I'm sure I've seen this before. Give them acid.
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Yeah, So many people believe this and other bullshit like with acid and spinal fluid!!!!
It makes me mad but I try to just ignore it because most of the time, they wont believe you, and other times I feel like an ass for trying to make them feel stupid.
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Dose them please !!!! for their own good
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ahaha I've been in similar situations
a group of 5-7 people in my spanish class were all talking about lsd and making holes in your brain. I was very close to bitching them all out and actually explaining the general way psychedelics work. instead I thought to myself, I cant deal with these people and just read my book
fuck em
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Yeah it's too bad, but at least they didn't say that you tripped because your brain is melting or something really ignorant like that. When people get facts wrong i just try to explain to them calmly, try keep things from getting to the ignorant stage
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Visionary Tools said: Give them acid.
Yup.
Also, carry around good drug information for situations like this: Print-outs from Erowid and other sites.
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Re: dumb ass ingorant fucks [Re: DonkeyShell]
#7555852 - 10/24/07 04:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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DonkeyShell said: maybe one of em will die of alcohol poisoning before the class ends.
Maybe they just need to experience REAL food poisoning.
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Re: dumb ass ingorant fucks [Re: lbtchnlgs]
#7555875 - 10/24/07 04:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i cant stand people like that. today i overheard someone in my chemistry class as we were leaving talking about 2012. they were saying about how its fake that the world is "going to explode on December 21, 2012", and all these other stupid things. im not saying that the whole time acceleration and 2012 theory is true, but im pretty sure no one ever said anything about the world blowing up. Also, the other day someone was talking about how marijuana eats your brain just like lsd does. but, instead of calling them out on it, i just remained silent as to not draw any unwanted drug attention to myself lol.
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Re: dumb ass ingorant fucks [Re: Phishe]
#7555884 - 10/24/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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They weren't that far off. You could have just communicated with em so they learned rather than tell em to fuck off. What's the point of that?
You get sick because your body rejects the mushies, since they are literally a poison to your body.
You get sick with food poisoning because your body rejects it.
So they were close. But not really. Eh.
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VisionsToReality said:since they are literally a poison to your body.
How are they "literally" a poison?
I'm not trying to be an asshole I just hate the use of the word literal when it's not true.
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Re: dumb ass ingorant fucks [Re: Phishe]
#7555917 - 10/24/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think he meant there's a toxicity issue when some take mushrooms ... it seems to me within the first 30 minutes after dosing on mushies my bodie wants to reject it but after 30 mins I'm fine ..Ehhhgghhh
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Re: dumb ass ingorant fucks [Re: RandomHero]
#7555939 - 10/24/07 05:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, I get pretty damn sick from it...
I think the issue here is that people think that the reaction in your brain is due to food poisoning... Which it most definately is not.
Psilocybin rules 
I'd like to try some of the pure chemical cause I get a little queasy from even making tea. What would you call that? Drink Poisoning?
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Re: dumb ass ingorant fucks [Re: JunkFood]
#7555989 - 10/24/07 05:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've had food poisoning, and I've taken mushrooms. Food poisoning is an entirely different and far more discomforting experience altogether.
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well now, did you ask them if they've ever tried mushrooms? because if they haven't then they have absolutely no grounds to preach to you. 
tell them to go and experience it. then, after that, if they want to you continue the conversation, you'll be more than welcome.
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Re: dumb ass ingorant fucks [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7556080 - 10/24/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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AlteredAgain said: well now, did you ask them if they've ever tried mushrooms? because if they haven't then they have absolutely no grounds to preach to you. 
tell them to go and experience it. then, after that, if they want to you continue the conversation, you'll be more than welcome.
So I says thats pretty damn good advice I can dig it
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Re: dumb ass ingorant fucks [Re: RandomHero]
#7556102 - 10/24/07 05:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lmao. My friend went hunting with me (he doesn't know shit about shrooms) the other day and told me
"Yeah I heard it's best to hunt in the day, cause the sun causes the mushrooms to become hallucinogenic."
What a tard.
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Re: dumb ass ingorant fucks [Re: YeagerBomb]
#7556125 - 10/24/07 05:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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YeagerBomb said: Lmao. My friend went hunting with me (he doesn't know shit about shrooms) the other day and told me
"Yeah I heard it's best to hunt in the day, cause the sun causes the mushrooms to become hallucinogenic."
What a tard.
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Re: dumb ass ingorant fucks [Re: GbBaker]
#7556159 - 10/24/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've never gotten sick from them, they aren't "toxic" though but they can upset your stomach same as anything else.
When I said you're a fool for thinking that its actually food poisoning that makes you trip one of them said that "well the same reaction happens in your body when you take mushrooms as when you get food poisoning"... where he got that information I have no idea. I try to tell them the facts but they keep saying im wrong and retarded for thinking so.
None of them have ever tried any drugs except one smokes pot once and awhile. Where does the food poisoning myth even come from/what is the "factual basis" for it?
Holy shit I just found this on some website called youqa.com when looking for why people think its food poisoning
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Question: I've read extensively about hppd but have not seen any information about the actual risk factor from taking psilocybin. I know the risk is greater with LSD, but I've not seen any concrete data about the true risks invloved with any of the common halucenages.
Answer: HPPD is a disorder that basically means you are stuck in a permanent trip. This happens very easily with LSD (see Rollie Theodore Sakers), but with 'shrooms, the odds are much less. Shrooms are food poisoning, and the way they work is by poisoning your body so your brain can react with small, confined hallucinations. You will not see things like fireplaces get up and start walking around, or lizard people chasing you; you will, however, see illusions that make you take a second glance. The fireplace is an example of when I dropped two tabs of LSD and the lizard people are from "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas". The worst thing that ever happened to me on 'shrooms was while walking through my campus, I saw a pile of mud. One of my buddies warned me, "Watch out for that mud, man," which my brain interpreted as "Watch out for that mudman". Of course, I saw a man made of mud climbing out of it and proceeded to run like a madman across campus. It took what seemed like an hour before my friends found me hiding in the bushes, but was really only a few minutes. A "Perma-trip" is obtained easily from LSD and other hallucinagens like adrenochrome, certain methanphetamines and sometimes ecstacy. When stuck, that means that the drug did not make it through your cerebral cortex and into your spinal fluid, but rather, stayed in your head. This, again, can be found by listening to the rants of Raliegh Theodore Sakers located below. Hope this helped! careful with the mushrooms....my son who is by the way brillant, but can do some really stupid things.....one night with friends went into a cow pasture, to find and eat mushrooms. their ride got tired and left. i had to drive over 100 miles to get them. one the way home...he puked every 5-10 miles or so, cars refused to get near us, it's a night i will never forget. i don't think he will either.
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Re: dumb ass ignorant fucks [Re: GbBaker]
#7556172 - 10/24/07 05:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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FUck'em. Some people in this world just choose to close their eyes and refuse to acknowledge anything beyond their comfort zone, closed minded fools, fuck'em all.
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"» Are magic mushrooms poisonous? No. Psilocybin mushrooms are not toxic. The National Institute For Occupational Safety And Heath (NIOSH) in the US Psilocybin (641) is rated less toxic than Aspirin (199) and Nicotine (21)."
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My thing is if your in college or in school for that matter you have the capability to learn so why not learn about the things you don't know/understand like for instance DMT then again I'm speaking as if these people even had a clue
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Re: dumb ass ingorant fucks [Re: Gill]
#7556224 - 10/24/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gill said: I've had food poisoning, and I've taken mushrooms. Food poisoning is an entirely different and far more discomforting experience altogether.
That would have been my exact response. "I've gone through both many times. They're not the same, kthxbai!"
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"Toxic" magic mushrooms i think get that kind of reputation because fungi in general seem to be archetypally associated with poison (the purple mushroom, the fly agaric image, etc.)
They're myths of childhood. Remember mommy who used to always tell you not to touch any of those mushrooms?
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well to start mushrooms are not toxic. i dunno where you heard that. secondly that hppd thing is COMPLETE bullshit. hppd in no way is easy to get, nor does it happen often with lsd. neither is it being stuck in a trip. hppd is a rare condition where one has visuals after the trip, however their thought processes are still intact and they are still grounded in reality. (they are not tripping). no one really knows what causes hppd, some say it is a visual thing, others say psychological, what we do know is that it goes away on its own accord a lot when the person learns to live with it/ or at least the visuals are dramatically lessened to be not even noticeable. this in my opinion suggests its a psychological thing.
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Re: dumb ass ignorant fucks [Re: evolprim]
#7556254 - 10/24/07 06:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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evolprim said: hppd is a rare condition where one has visuals after the trip, however their thought processes are still intact and they are still grounded in reality.
ever think maybe its from the use of psychedelics and other factors ?
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Re: dumb ass ignorant fucks [Re: evolprim]
#7556263 - 10/24/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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evolprim said: well to start mushrooms are not toxic.
Neither is heroin.
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Re: dumb ass ignorant fucks [Re: JunkFood]
#7556278 - 10/24/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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neither is MC'Donald's food
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Re: dumb ass ignorant fucks [Re: RandomHero]
#7556292 - 10/24/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i would not at all be surprised if the LD50 of McDonalds was lower than that of magic mushrooms.
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Re: dumb ass ignorant fucks [Re: RandomHero]
#7556298 - 10/24/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i didnt say it isnt from psychedelics, i said we dont know what about the psychedelic trip causes it, whether the actual psychedelic causes a visual disturbance or a psychological one. also the idea that neither is heroin or mcdonalds toxic doesnt mean anything. all i am saying is that mushrooms are not a poison in the traditional sense of the word (meaning they are not like certain agaric mushrooms that can cause mushroom toxicity) whether they are good for you or can cause problems, psychologically or even physically (vomitting etc.) is another matter entirely.
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Re: dumb ass ignorant fucks [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7556315 - 10/24/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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AlteredAgain said: i would not at all be surprised if the LD50 of McDonalds was lower than that of magic mushrooms.
I wouldn't be surprised if the LD50 of McDonalds was lower than heroin.
Seriously.
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Re: dumb ass ignorant fucks [Re: evolprim]
#7556339 - 10/24/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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According to my text book "Some develop a syndrome called hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD), in which the visual cortex becomes highly stimulated whenever the individuals shut their eyes, causing them to experience chronic visual hallucinations whenever they try to sleep (Abraham & Duffy, 2001)."
It's called dreaming LOL but srsly i never heard of that w/ HPPD I thought it was just sometimes you'd get a minor visual disturbance?
As for the classical conditioning, I just realized that my mom did that to me with Datura (specifically the dried spiky ball things). She always told me never to eat them because they're poisonous. And i'm damn glad I never ate them.
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Re: dumb ass ignorant fucks [Re: evolprim]
#7556343 - 10/24/07 06:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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depending on a person's weight one would have to eat about 28 dried grams of cubensis to reach its LD50 i believe.
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Re: dumb ass ignorant fucks [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7556416 - 10/24/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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who would eat that much though honestly? I mean if you want to you can OD on pretty much anything.
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exactly the point, there is little room for accident here.. and for comfort.. the body will throw it all up to begin with.
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Re: dumb ass ignorant fucks [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7557752 - 10/25/07 01:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i have heard that figure is actually way understated. and the ld50 is much more than 28 grams. as to who would eat that much. i believe white rasta consumer a dose of 28 grams i remember reading his post a while back about it. (may have been a different member but im pretty sure it was white rasta)
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Re: dumb ass ignorant fucks [Re: evolprim]
#7557816 - 10/25/07 01:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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some people need to shut the fuck up and not think they know everything about things they obviously dont, and then when you tell them the truth there always just lile "yeah what ever your just a druggie" fuck them if they wanna be ignorant just dont talk to them
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