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    #7555580 - 10/24/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So i went to the park to walk my dog and i seen a bright red thing that cought my atention then i walked up to it and it was a aminita muscaria mushroom so i picked the caps off them 7 large mushrooms and brought them home?do i let them dry out like normal shrooms or eat them wet???


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Re: aminta muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7555595 - 10/24/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If you have the right mushroom, dry it out, grind it up and make tea.


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Re: aminta muscaria [Re: Deity208]
    #7555605 - 10/24/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah im postive its it..so i guess ima do that..


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Re: aminta muscaria [Re: Deity208]
    #7555608 - 10/24/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Great advice?! :eek: (yes that is sarcasm)


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Re: aminta muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7555615 - 10/24/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Get the water just below boiling, if its over like 200 degrees its too hot and the muscimol will break down I think, then put them in and let them cook for like 45 minutes, then strain the shit out. You should look it up to be sure. Have fun :supershroom:


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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?


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Re: aminta muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7555616 - 10/24/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Dude!  Do some research (not sarcasm).  :shocked:


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Re: aminta muscaria [Re: scout24]
    #7555621 - 10/24/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Dude!  Do some research.  :shocked:




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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?


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Re: aminta muscaria [Re: Deity208]
    #7555656 - 10/24/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I just thought there should have been a little more emphasis on the fact that he must be very sure he had the correct amanita, considering how everyone pisses and moans about how dangerous mis-identification can be (not a dig at your advice/preparation)


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Re: aminta muscaria [Re: chaos05]
    #7555762 - 10/24/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

be sure u have the correct mushroom before u consume, the reason i say this is that u cant spell amanita "aminta" correctly so your id skills could be questionable...

if u are state side u might want to do some more research as there are look alikes.


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Re: aminta muscaria [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7556097 - 10/24/07 05:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

iv done my reasearch on it and and im positive its it ...and can u eat them raw when dried..


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7560472 - 10/25/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

SO it was really bad idea to use fly agaric as i did i ate 7 caps the size of my hand wet ..i ended up going into a complete lucid dream state and almost died is what the doctor said he said i was breathing all loud and weird and my heart rate was down to the low 40s and i was in a coma like state my room mates found me on my bedroom floor barely breathing in a pool of sweat they were shaking me and yelling at me but i wouldn't wake up ..Never again gonna eat fly agaric ..regular shrooms are much safer..


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7560556 - 10/25/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

this is one of the few times no one saved a moron from eating a bunch of random shrooms he found

shame on us


Edited by DepressionSeeker (10/25/07 08:09 PM)


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7560663 - 10/25/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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SO it was really bad idea to use fly agaric as i did i ate 7 caps the size of my hand wet ..i ended up going into a complete lucid dream state and almost died is what the doctor said he said i was breathing all loud and weird and my heart rate was down to the low 40s and i was in a coma like state my room mates found me on my bedroom floor barely breathing in a pool of sweat they were shaking me and yelling at me but i wouldn't wake up ..Never again gonna eat fly agaric ..regular shrooms are much safer..





You're stupid as FUCK


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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: DepressionSeeker]
    #7560677 - 10/25/07 08:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

dude they were the real mushroom


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7560699 - 10/25/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hahahahaha!


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: mathewww]
    #7560714 - 10/25/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

oh that sucks. should have known better though....


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Deity208]
    #7560715 - 10/25/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

why am i stupid as fuck they were the right ones..


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7560722 - 10/25/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

still... that was too much


must have been a scary experience for you though! but i'm glad you're okay. :smile:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: lysergicide]
    #7560737 - 10/25/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Youre stupid cause you ate 7 caps the size of your hand wet.


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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: lysergicide]
    #7560743 - 10/25/07 08:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, man for sure.

I'm glad you're all right, too.

Mushrooms are fun but so dangerous on the same note.
Take care of yourself man.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7560749 - 10/25/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

that how a high dosse of amanita is supost to fell so you have a hell of experience ,that sometimes is what other people look for . but you now know is not for you .. do you remenber something in that state, i bet you were in wonderland , how is alicia ?, i have never see her , is she all right? , amanita muscaria is an entheogenic mushrroms , not to have fun , but to learn ... i see you learn a lot from it .. have a good day....


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: cactu]
    #7560834 - 10/25/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't really remember much but the point of the story the mushrooms told basically don't take like for granted cuzz it can end at anytime..i was like having imagery of white light and a bright light shining threw it and like slowly moving towards and i know there was allot more to it but thats all i remember..


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7560864 - 10/25/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

. you where blessed you will remenber in time, this was the best experience you may have , you will understand in time , , be safe, fly high , be free......


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Deity208]
    #7561593 - 10/26/07 01:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Youre stupid cause you ate 7 caps the size of your hand wet.




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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Deity208]
    #7561825 - 10/26/07 04:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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HMK420 said:
why am i stupid as fuck they were the right ones..



Quote:

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Youre stupid cause you ate 7 caps the size of your hand wet.



Way too strong a dose, and you need to fully cook, or fully dry the mushroom before eating, otherwise you risk becoming very ill.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: CureCat]
    #7561859 - 10/26/07 05:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

My point earlier pre-fucking-cisely!! This shit really pisses me off!

Glad your ok though man.

(I thought they should really be dried in the oven at around 170 for half hour to get rid of the nastiness, even though you can eat them fresh its not advised?! - if this is untrue please correct me)


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: chaos05]
    #7561865 - 10/26/07 05:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

u are not wrong. they need to be dried to convert the ibotenic acid into muscimol.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7562894 - 10/26/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the dude just didnt dry em. i dont think we made a mistake. we'll call it a learning experience. how bout that? remember to take shroomery members advice.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7563076 - 10/26/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

> the dude just didnt dry em.

It would have probably still been a disaster if they were dried, the dose was way too high. People usually eat one cap, not seven.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: mathewww]
    #7563237 - 10/26/07 12:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yzz, unresponsible are very stupid. It's unfortunate you dont possess the need to be informed about things you do to get high. Hopefully you will learn from your childish mistakes. :blindfury:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: mathewww]
    #7563303 - 10/26/07 01:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hey Guys I need to know If you see Concentric Rings on the stipes of these Amanita Muscarias







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    #7563327 - 10/26/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

kind of, but iffy :shrug:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7563333 - 10/26/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Is there a way to spore print these or any sure fire plan to find out if they are good to go???


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Greenthumb788]
    #7563382 - 10/26/07 01:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

spore print will tell what species, and obv they are amanita. Its the sub species that makes the difference and the minute details in physical features that matters. Some of them seem to be concentric. Personally I can't get myself to tell anyone to eat a.muscaria. :stonedjerk:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: snoot]
    #7563416 - 10/26/07 01:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Come to think of it, I'm surprised that guy's alive. That's a miracle.

As stupid as it is.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: mathewww]
    #7563634 - 10/26/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well, being alive is one thing, having a damaged liver is another. :brushteeth:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7563776 - 10/26/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'm wondering why you bothered to come in here seeking advice in the first place, seeing as you ignored it completely.  :shrug:

Props for owning up to your idiocy.  Maybe others will learn from your mistake (Greenthumb788), but I won't hold my breath.  :smirk:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: snoot]
    #7563782 - 10/26/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

so im gonna do it right this time im gonna get a bunch more and dry them out in oven on 170 and sell them how much should i put in a dose like one grinded up small cap..could this couse what happen to me to other people on one cap?


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7563792 - 10/26/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:rofl:you are kidding right , i get it

seven is a great number, you know seven deadly sins ......seven son of a seven son .....


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    #7563829 - 10/26/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lucky number 7...


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: HMK420]
    #7563843 - 10/26/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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so im gonna do it right this time im gonna get a bunch more and dry them out in oven on 170 and sell them how much should i put in a dose like one grinded up small cap..could this couse what happen to me to other people on one cap?




I hope you come back after you are arrested and sued so we can laugh at you some more.  :lol:


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    #7564037 - 10/26/07 05:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

$20 says he gets beat up for trying to sell lol


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Also he got a race car.
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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Deity208]
    #7564049 - 10/26/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

whos gonna buy amanita? i would just try it and if you dont like chuck em.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: haymaker]
    #7564166 - 10/26/07 05:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

someone must be buying it or a million online retailers wouldnt be selling it... :shrug:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7564171 - 10/26/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i was thinking of adding that to my post. but thats the same as kratom and (in my experience) salvia and other enthogens. no body seems to buy these exotic drugs off dealers, online yeah, but not off dealers.

most people just dont know about them. like i only know of one person not online who knows what DMT is.


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    #7564189 - 10/26/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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so im gonna do it right this time im gonna get a bunch more and dry them out in oven on 170 and sell them how much should i put in a dose like one grinded up small cap..could this couse what happen to me to other people on one cap?





just hold your breath and spin in circles for 3 minutes, the effects will be similar, without the possibility of a liver transplant.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Greenthumb788]
    #7564302 - 10/26/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the rings in these specimens have been overhandled or in some other way depressed but are still clearly present. i can not speak for all specimens pictured. in some cases they can erode or be handled to the point of becomming indistinct, bulbous or give the appearance of being simply rimmed, which features make positive placement all the more dificult and all the less certain. this is one reason that extreme caution with amanitas is advisable, as these features are of primary importance once the identity as an amanita has been established. another reason worth never forgetting for a second is that in north america amanitas have not been as extensively cataloged, sorted and published as elsewhere [e.g. europe].


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: canid]
    #7564719 - 10/26/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Alright so I see no need for another A. Muscaria thread

I found these growing in my backyard. I don't know for sure, but they appear to be A. Muscaria.


*edit* i'm just not sure about the rings around the base. for the record, i'm not eating them. Just curious



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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: FrontRoRugby]
    #7564751 - 10/26/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Strange that there would be so many A. muscaria id requests at once in the same thread.  :rolleyes:

Why ask questions if you don't listen to the answers? :crankey:


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: scout24]
    #7564778 - 10/26/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well i probably should have just posted the base
because thats really the only thing i'm questioning
i just don't know if those would qualify as rings/ridges

maybe ill edit to just those


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: FrontRoRugby]
    #7566676 - 10/27/07 12:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well a. muscaria are pretty self identifying in most parts of the world.

ring on stem, vovla (egg) at base, red/yellow with 'warts' of white on cap. Grows under elm/birch. They also have a distinctive smell.

(BTW, this is true for me cos i live in UK, im not so sure about america)


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: haymaker]
    #7566746 - 10/27/07 01:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Well a. muscaria are pretty self identifying in most parts of the world.

ring on stem, vovla (egg) at base, red/yellow with 'warts' of white on cap. Grows under elm/birch. They also have a distinctive smell.

(BTW, this is true for me cos i live in UK, im not so sure about america)




Edited after Cactu corrected my mistake Amanita muscaria's volva, forms collars at the base of the stem, the base of the stem is bulbous.

In America they are most often found under pines and other evergreens and sometimes found under some deciduous trees such as oak and birch.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: falcon]
    #7566804 - 10/27/07 01:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Amanita muscaria does not have a volva, it has veil remnants that form collars at the base of the stem, the base of the stem is bulbous.

In America they are most often found under pines and other evergreens and sometimes found under some deciduous trees such as oak and birch.

. all amanitas have the main caracteristic of having a volva, all of then , the tipe of volva of amanita muscaria is just diferent that other, some loose it with age but no a. muscaria.



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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: cactu]
    #7566825 - 10/27/07 01:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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. all amanitas have the main caracteristic of having a volva, all of then , the tipe of volva of amanita muscaria is just diferent that other, some loose it with age but no a. muscaria. all amanitas have the main caracteristic of having a volva, all of then , the tipe of volva of amanita muscaria is just diferent that other, some loose it with age but no a. muscaria.




You are correct, my mistake, I should have been clearer and said that Amanita muscaria does not have a sac like volva. Nice pictorial representation of the different bases of amanitas BTW.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: cactu]
    #7566831 - 10/27/07 01:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Amanita muscaria does not have a volva, it has veil remnants that form collars at the base of the stem, the base of the stem is bulbous.




:nonono:

the bulbous part at the base and the concentric rings of scales are wot remains of the volva...



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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7567371 - 10/27/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:nonono: yeah yeah, sorry my mistake, just the way I think of it, all amanitas have a universal veil, I usually only say that the ones whose universal veil form sac like volvas have volvas.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: falcon]
    #7567390 - 10/27/07 05:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

its quite alright :smile:

i only know cos a mycologist (30 years of mushrooming) told me that one.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: haymaker]
    #7567406 - 10/27/07 05:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:sun: thanks, I should know better sometimes I type before I think things out.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: falcon]
    #7567445 - 10/27/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i think you deserve a rating for that :smile: [/offtopicness]


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: haymaker]
    #7574979 - 10/29/07 11:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

God damn the OP is dumb.


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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: haymaker]
    #7575555 - 10/30/07 06:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks. :smile:


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