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what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars?
    #7552488 - 10/23/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ive grown successfully once with pf tek method and my most recent attempt with 2 poobags failed miserably due to bacterial contamination. so as an experiment i decided to use my old lc, which appears healthy but could have been the cause for the poobag failure, to knock up 3 brf jars to see if in fact the lc is crap or not.

if these 3 brf jars colonize well, what would you do? i dont want to fruit 3 measly cakes, ideally id like to spawn them to something bigger and then case them, although i heard that brf isnt the best spawn candidate.


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: mongoose539]
    #7552494 - 10/23/07 07:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

personally, id dunk for 24 hours, crumble them, pour them into something, put some vermiculite over the top, misting heavily, give a day to recover, then do the usually fan/mist schedule.


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: mongoose539]
    #7552500 - 10/23/07 07:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Actually BRF has worked better than anything I have tried. So yes spawn to coir/hpoo/verm or peat/hpoo or some combination of that sort. Casing layer IMO is optional if you can keep the RH and FAE high. GL!


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7552501 - 10/23/07 07:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

crumble and spawn to coir.


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7552512 - 10/23/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'd throw them out and start work on some WBS:lol:


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7552519 - 10/23/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'd crumble and case, using 50/50 coir & vermiculite. Heard good results using that method.


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7552522 - 10/23/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

straight coir? never tryed to spawn to just coir alone...will that even work?


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: NewFungiGrower]
    #7552531 - 10/23/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Don't see why it wouldn't, you'd just get somewhat less moisture retention - which wouldn't matter if you were using a monotub...for example. A slight mix of honey with the coir would help a bit though.


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: NewFungiGrower]
    #7552552 - 10/23/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If I only had 3 cakes, that means that I wouldn't be wanting to put enough effort to do something that requires a lot of steps and mixing (making casing, mixing casing layer, buffering it, misting, faeing all the time, ect.) I wouldn't go through all that with just 3 cakes. I'd personally buy 5lbs of poo and some filter patch bags. Mix the three cakes in with the 5lbs of poo, distribute them into 4 bags and poo bag it. That way it's quick, easy, 4 bags instead of 3 cakes, cheap, and efficient. That's the way I'd do it! :smile:


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: boingkster]
    #7552567 - 10/23/07 08:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I believe mixing honey with coir isn't a good idea
I've heard a few people say that it increases contam risk significantly

what I would do with the 3 cakes: spawn to coir/coffee in 3 deep casings, one for each cake


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: mikeytro]
    #7552574 - 10/23/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Cheers for the info mikeytro - I'll stay away from it in that 'case' then, haha. I'd heard good...maybe I haven't read the right info yet.


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: boingkster]
    #7552581 - 10/23/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

its cool
I'm not even a 100% sure but I've been researching using coir for the past 3 weeks or so, plan on starting to spawn
when searching through the archives I just saw a few debates about it and it seemed the overall feel was that it isnt worth it


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: mongoose539]
    #7552587 - 10/23/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

LOL! So far every response that has been posted is correct in it's own right. Yes you can spawn to straight coir! It's all a matter of personal preferences. I personally love WBS, so If I had 3 fully colonized BRF cakes I would use it to spawn about 24 Quart jars of WBS. Then your cooking with gas baby! Hell, then I would really have to think about what I should do. I experimented with casing straight WBS to see what that would do. It produced these babies.....

Not bad. It flushed 3 times. I washed it, dunked it and re-cased it and I'm just now getting flush number one and it looks to be better than the original flush number one! Who would have know? I'm in heaven!


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7552597 - 10/23/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I retract my previous statement:tongue:


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7552653 - 10/23/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

a question to help me make my decision... is the hpoo/straw mixture more likely to contaminate than say... wbs or coir?

would this situation work?

- crumble one colonized jar into a hpoo/straw bag in a glove box, let colonize, then case the fully colonized bag with verm/peat/lime

or is this better?

- crumble one cake into a deep tray filled with sterilized wbs or coir, cover, wait to for colonization, then case with verm/peat/lime?

and if using the second method... how do i ensure the sterility of the wbs or coir when placing them in the tray with the cakes, unless i do the whole operation in a really big glove box?

thank you so much and the goal here is to get restarted and get a much larger yield than my first grow. and to develop a solid method for doing so

thanks again!


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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: mongoose539]
    #7552702 - 10/23/07 08:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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hpoo/straw mixture more likely to contaminate than say... wbs or coir?


No! Not if you pasteurize correctly. Bacteria is bacteria, and mold is mold. So long as you follow procedures it wouldn't matter if you spawned to a turd you just laid!

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crumble one colonized jar into a hpoo/straw bag in a glove box, let colonize, then case the fully colonized bag with verm/peat/lime



I like that idea.

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rumble one cake into a deep tray filled with sterilized wbs or coir, cover, wait to for colonization, then case with verm/peat/lime?


I would just crumble the cake and spawn to freshly sterilized WBS jars and let the jars colonize as you would any Grain, (shake when 20% colonized and watch the magic!) Much more sterile that way. Do this in the glove box mentioned earlier.

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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7552735 - 10/23/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thanks shroomy 1 that does help alot, and i hope you wont mind me asking a couple more

if i get a prepasteurized poobag from a sponsor... is bad to then repasteurize it myself to make double sure? or will that alter the water content of the poo/straw to an undesirable level?

im just a bit weary on spending some more $ on poobags after my initial failure with them, but if theyll give me the biggest and most flushes then i think it will be worth it.

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Re: what would YOU do with 3 colonized brf jars? [Re: mongoose539]
    #7552831 - 10/23/07 09:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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f i get a prepasteurized poobag from a sponsor... is bad to then repasteurize it myself to make double sure? or will that alter the water content of the poo/straw to an undesirable level?


TRUST THE VENDORS! They know what they are doing. I wouldn't attempt to re-pasteurize.

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m just a bit weary on spending some more $ on poobags after my initial failure with them, but if theyll give me the biggest and most flushes then i think it will be worth it.



Buy a poo bag..... wait a week.......... examine the poo bag.... If you don't have any contamination, you know it's not the poo bag. If after you inoculate, you have contamination you will know its happening either with the syringe, or your sterile methods. Hell, I can't tell you how much money I spent because of failed attempts in the beginning! You have to learn from failure in order to succeed in future grows. Peace!


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