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OfflineGbBaker
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Freezing Shrooms
    #7551277 - 10/23/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well I dont have the time to dry them, nor the equipment but, is it possible to freeze magic mushrooms and they not spoil/rot? how do I do it if so.


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: GbBaker]
    #7551348 - 10/23/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Dry them before freezing unless you want a gooey mess when you defrost them.


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7551364 - 10/23/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Would this possibly work without drying first if maybe they are only used in tea after being defrosted? I mean i know they would be a slimy gooey mess but that wouldn't really matter if they were going into hot water for tea would it?


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7551365 - 10/23/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

doesn't cold temps pwn the alkaloids?


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: janome]
    #7551430 - 10/23/07 03:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

it's not hard to dry them, you might as well do it, all you have to do is put them on a paper plate with out touching each other, and set the plate in a cabinet or shelf or anywhere they won't get disturbed. try to keep them away from light as well. if you want them extra dry, try desiccant.
I keep them in the freezer after they are dried, and they seem to last a long time.


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: janome]
    #7551438 - 10/23/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

even for like 4 days
is it a big deal?


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: GbBaker]
    #7551448 - 10/23/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

is what a big deal? putting them in the freezer before they are dry? I've never tried that but it doesn't sound too great since mushrooms are mostly water.


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: Love Cap]
    #7551496 - 10/23/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah thats what im thinking, but I dont have any other option I may just put them in the firdge instead


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: GbBaker]
    #7551554 - 10/23/07 04:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

use the search engine NAO


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: implee]
    #7551572 - 10/23/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

DO NOT PUT THEM IN THE FREEZER!!!! I did that once, and they lost sooo much potency once they thawed. It was a waste of an entire flush of mushrooms.

put them in the fridge if you are going to use them within the week, and if you are going to use them later than that, dry them out and then freeze them if you like. But just dry them out. They don't need all that much room to do it, they just need to have access to fresh, dry air. Thats all.

but DO NOT FREEZE THEM!!!


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7551740 - 10/23/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You don't need equipment to dry out shrooms, especially this time of year. I have a dehydrator from my other cooking forays, but it's not necessary.


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: GbBaker]
    #7552020 - 10/23/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Never put your shrooms in the freezer unless they are in a shielded vacuum tube, which they aren't--unless you have access to science equipment. It's unnecessary. If they are properly and thoroughly dried they will keep for many months in an environment with little exposure to air, heat, or light.


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7552093 - 10/23/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

if you're putting them up for a few days anyway, might as well just lay them out on a plate and put them up in your closet or something, let them dry out some and you won't have to eat as much


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: Love Cap]
    #7552502 - 10/23/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I made way too much mushroom tea once, had one glass and i was their man. So I froze about 2L of it, and had some about a month later and there was no noticeable loss of potency.


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: sandman_130]
    #7552718 - 10/23/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah freeze then make tea or make tea and freeze. i have been freezing the remains of my brews for rebrewing for years


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: thedudenj]
    #7553015 - 10/23/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

duh you can also fridge in an air thight container


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: thedudenj]
    #7556439 - 10/24/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I once had a paper lunch baggy full of shrooms from a flush that I put in my mini fridge to chill for a day or two before I dried them (don't ask)...turns out they were too close to the cooling element in the mini and the whole bag frooze straight through. I guess the humidity built up too and they were like solid ice all the way through...it was a mess.

I let em thaw for a few hours then dried them normal with a fan/damp-rid and they had no noticeable differences as far as look or potency. Maybe I'm just lucky.


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: bagsofun]
    #7557018 - 10/24/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Just don't freeze them,just put it in a oxygen free bag that's absolutely sealed,that'll keep them fresh.You may freeze them after you do that,although it's not necessary.


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: reptie7]
    #7557437 - 10/24/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Actually putting fresh shrooms in a sealed bag will rot them faster than anything. Unless they're dried out they need to be placed in something breathable like a paper bag, preferably in a fridge.

There seems to be no benifits to freezing shrooms....for long term storage just dry them out and store in a sealed container like any kind of jar with something like silica gel or damp ride to maintain the dry state....they will last for years. I keep mine in a big plastic peanut butter jar with a few little paper-towel packets of damp rid....keeps em fresh and ready to go indefinatly.


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: bagsofun]
    #7557690 - 10/25/07 12:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i dunno fridge and sealed bag has been fine for me and its been in there for almost a week no rot just same as they were when i put em in. the other ones dried


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: thedudenj]
    #7558533 - 10/25/07 09:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Im talkin about leaving fresh shrooms in a sealed bag, like a ziplock lunch baggy not a food sealer bag, no fridge = bad.


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: bagsofun]
    #7558544 - 10/25/07 09:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yar no fridge is bad


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: thedudenj]
    #7558587 - 10/25/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Oooh Oooh WHat about freeze DRIED shrooms...


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: Slimz]
    #7558593 - 10/25/07 10:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

freezing dried is fine i just dont see the point


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: thedudenj]
    #7558602 - 10/25/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

for astronauts DUH  :cuckoo:


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: Slimz]
    #7558605 - 10/25/07 10:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lol:strokebeard: oh my what if they were mixed into space food


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: thedudenj]
    #7558612 - 10/25/07 10:19 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:skittles:  :pizza:  :greenshroom:  :donut:
One of these foods is not like the other, One of these foods just dosen't belong


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Re: Freezing Shrooms [Re: Slimz]
    #7558957 - 10/25/07 12:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The enemy of potency is oxidation.

Cool temps are good for storage of dried mushrooms, because lower temperatures slow down chemical reactions.

But far more significant preserving effects can be achieved by eliminating the oxygen altogether. No oxygen -> no atmosphere-induced oxidation.

The best thing to do is to store them in CO2. Or, I don't know, argon or something if you have any laying around.

If you want to keep them in the freezer, make sure they are dried first. As noted, ice crystals will turn the tissue to mushy shite.

So: keep them dry, keep them oxygen-free.


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