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Rudy Giuliani: never heard that before
    #7549077 - 10/22/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Rudy Giuliani: never heard that before [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7549154 - 10/22/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What's really funny is that Ron Paul said that our foreign policy in the mideast caused 911 and Guliani made it a point to twist his words saying "I don't think Ive heard anyone say that our foreign policy in IRAQ caused 9/11"..... Like there was no other intervention OTHER than Iraq....


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Re: Rudy Giuliani: never heard that before [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7549229 - 10/22/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I was watching the repub. presidential debate online, and for those who watched it will know what I refer to when I say the part where Paul was sharing his anti-interventionist ideas, and giuliani spouted his fake response.

I was listening and watching, and my heart began to beat faster, as I began to go into shock and I started to get excited. Soon I quickly found my self from what I can tell I started to black out, and my vision became obstructed as what looked like a white vapor come over
my eyes.

It was totally unexpected for me. It is just such a surprise that such an opinion would even be allowed on mainstream television. But on the other hand, it's not a surprise that he would receive so much support.

While it's not what I would say is best, I have been wondering if this is the voice of reason I have been praying for. I know God won't put up with this nation forever.

Whether ron Paul is authentic or not, I have considered it well, and I cannot believe that the jesuit social engineers that built this evil nation would not expect such a reaction.I truly believe that 9/11 was part of a plan which had it's inception many many years ago.Even a hundred years ago, or more.

This is even further evidence of the blatant propoganda the nwo srategists are working so hard to use on the American people. Giuliani's remark is an obvious attemp, or what seem an obvious attempt to give the impression thar ron Pual is a fringe lunatic.

But is it all anymore real than professional wrestling? Arn't polotics little more than actors, doing an act upon a political stage to please their audience? Couldn't public opinion be molded just as the Rock and the undertaker?

But how deceptive. If they knew this was coming a long time ago, then
how can they not have moved to prepare against him? Could it be that
Iraq was never about America at all?


The power is going to the east, and this is for certain. America is losing standing with the rest of the world, and other nations will gain in prominence as America loses it grip of power on the world. But this does not mean the great whore is finished, nor does it mean the social architects have given up.

The power is going to the east, and they will sacrifice America. But what will ultimately come of America? I don't know for sure. I know that it depends ultimately on the American people, and the world, to see through the lies and corruption, and the cultural brainwashing that they have entrapped them, with. They must seek the truth, and the only way to overcome them, to overcome the God of this world, who has blinded the eyes of those who believe not, is the freedom and wisdom found in Jesus Christ.

But if God gives this nation another chance; to establish justice, I fear that America will continue in it's ways and pay for it's crimes against humanity, and all pay together. I think it's not to extreme to consider a great judgement poured out on this nation, where it will be decimated, and the whole world will gasp in shock in horror and what has befallen them.


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Re: Rudy Giuliani: never heard that before [Re: BrAiN]
    #7549265 - 10/22/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This is old too. Goes back to a debate in early June.

Paul was simply referring to the CIA term blowback, written about in the 9/11 Commission Report.

Paul DOES NOT blame America or Americans for what happened on 9/11. he cites our foreign policy as being a contributing factor in blow back, what we experienced on 9/11.

Ron Paul wants Bin Laden and anyone alive who had a hand in planning those attacks brought to justice. He condemns what they did. Paul voted yes to going after Bin Laden in Afghanistan and wants to know why our government gave up the hunt when he fled to Pakistan.

That was just for anyone who is behind on the news and still believes Rudy's twisted words that RP said, America is responsible for the attacks on 9/11.


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Re: Rudy Giuliani: never heard that before [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7549310 - 10/22/07 10:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

what are you talking about? You are totally wrong. This is from the republican presidential debate they just had in florida.

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he cites our foreign policy as being a contributing factor in blow back, what we experienced on 9/11.




A much greater contributing factor than you portray him as giving. The only thing I see him contributing to the fault of the middle east, is his referall to his opinion of their political policies. I'm sure he would want bin laden brought to justice, just about everyone does. But that does not mean that America is not accountable. Not, by any means. And Paul implis that Americas policies are a primary contributing factor. He seems to see a situation where America can, just as it should have in the beginning, engaged in peace talks and way to negotiate and stimulate trade, and promote a culture of education about middle eastern culture and policy, and work to be at peace, and stop provoking countries in the middle east and around the world, to hate and attack America for it's crimes.


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Re: Rudy Giuliani: never heard that before [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7549430 - 10/22/07 10:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry Charlie. That statement from Rudy happened during an exchange during the Fox debate last June.

Would you a like a link to last Sundays Fox debate in Orlando to watch and or the one from June where Rudy said that?

What is new to me is that clip of Rudy contradicting himself 1 hr later. It's a riot and he's busted as being a liar.

What isn't funny is all of the crap Paul had to clear up over people buying Rudy's lie.

Thats dirty politics and campaigning for you though.

If I am presenting Paul's views on something, I will present them the way he does.

I personally take a somewhat different stance on 9/11 then Paul does. It's important to me that I do not mix my beleifs with his when presenting him.


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Re: Rudy Giuliani: never heard that before [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7549538 - 10/22/07 11:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The fox debate giuliani stated that he said he'd never heard that before was at the one debate in florida. I know this for a fact, I watched the entire
thing last night.

correction: 1 guess didn't watch the whole thing. I didn't see that link number eight there.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272672,00.html

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October 21, 2007 - Orlando, Florida

The Republican Party of Florida hosted a two-day event in October featuring major Republican candidates for President of the United States and culminating in a presidential debate. The debate, produced in partnership with the Fox News Channel, was the focal point of the weekend's events, called "Presidency IV."





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_presidential_debates,_2008


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Re: Rudy Giuliani: never heard that before [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7549581 - 10/22/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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jonathan_206 said:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272672,00.html






Is that the one you watched last night?

Did you bother to look at the date on it?

Thanks for the correction. It was said during the first debate in may, not during the second one in June.

None the less, the clip is brilliant! Thanks for posting it.

Let me know if you want to watch the Orlando debate from last Sunday, which I watched live. I'll dig up the link for you.


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Re: Rudy Giuliani: never heard that before [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7549621 - 10/22/07 11:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, I am wrong. I thought it was. When I typed it in to google, that's the first one that came up I think.

I apologise. You're right.

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