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 shroom_assassin
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 Re: What kind of music is Tool?  [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#762688 - 07/20/02 04:13 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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what are some of Tool's best songs? Im looking on kazaa theres too many to choose from.
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Hmmm, The Patient, Schism, Ticks and Leeches, Parabol/Parabola, Disposition, Reflection. Pretty much the entire Lateralus album rules. Other albums, Third Eye, Aenema, Stinkfist, 46 and 2, Pushit, Sober, Jerk Off, Sweat, Opiate, Bottom, Swamp Song.
If you want my opinion, just download the whole of Lateralus and then test it out, from the first song right to the end. It's quite a ride. 
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 World Spirit
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 Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: utopianglory]
#763721 - 07/21/02 01:58 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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utopianglory
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 Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: World Spirit]
#763746 - 07/21/02 02:48 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello..
Thought I might drop you a line, I'm not incredibly interested in getting into a long exchange of theoretical views but I thought I might try to help you understand what I meant earlier - I tried to come off as not unfriendly to the christian faith but clearly you have chosen to interpret what I said differently to how I wished it to be perceived.
Actually I am sincere friends with a few christians and have known many, some of them think for themselves which is positive but a lot of them appear to be sheep, perhaps my cynicism of these type of people showed through in my last posting. It is the constant bombardment of closed-mindedness that truly holds me back from being a true believer. I once was a true believer but I have found it hard to accept some of the concepts that people have attempted to force upon me. Fortunately I have known a few very good christians lately who have truly helped me to understand that there are a group of people who do think for themselves. The common thread in those who denounce tool is that they all are quick to denounce it because its different to their standard set of beliefs. Would you walk away from a theoretical discussion with a buddhist because he said something that you didn't believe in? - there is no reason to avoid music because of its origins.
I guess I find it quite strange that you should say this to me because its actually you who have gotten it completely wrong, I have been around the christian faith for a long time. I don't however believe in the way a lot of christians blindly believe. I listen to Tool and have my own ideas about the nature of the lyrics, I
Perhaps you are referring to my statement that faith is essentially blind belief. Well.. if you think about it almost all faith is blind belief. I did not suggest that christians were a: wrong, b: stupid for believing either. I actually respect the concept of faith because it takes a lot of guts to stand up for something you believe in when people/stimuli is constantly looking to suggest otherwise.
I don't know what you're talking about tool feeding their ego's. I feel perhaps you are misunderstanding them. If you ever went to a concert of theirs you might understand that they are just four guys and whilst they might give off the idea that they are very elitist most of the time when they are on stage you will realise that they are merely protecting themselves from the naysayers. I don't think I've ever seen a more powerfully positive group of guys. How can you say that the message 'I want each and every one of you to take this experience and create something positive with the feeling you have received tonight' to be arrogance.
Anyway, thanks for listening
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Tool for Beginners:
Stinkfist, Sober, Schism, Parabola, 46 & 2, Hooker With a Penis
Tool for the Experienced:
The Grudge, Eulogy, Flood, H
Tool for the Advanced listener:
Disgustipated, Third Eye, Disposition-Reflection-Triad, Pushit, Caesaro Summability
I'm just kidding anyone can listen to any Tool. But some songs are really harder to get into if you've never heard much Tool.
Go to Kazaa and get Stinkfist and Hooker with a Penis or 46&2.. Actually I think everyone will tell you that it's all good. Get Stinkfist first... it was my introduction to Tool.
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World Spirit
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 Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: utopianglory]
#763944 - 07/21/02 06:08 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: World Spirit]
#764479 - 07/21/02 11:17 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tool/A Perfect Circle are a very well drawn out, strategic group of musicians who know exactly what they're doing. They're getting their kicks and they are doing it pretty well, considering they know they're going to pay dearly for it.
Perhaps they think Christianity is a religion of which they are not members. Perhaps they would like to exercise their freedom of speech in spite of those who think they are pathetic and shallow. Perhaps they don't care if somebody on the shroomery is convinced they are hatemongering hellbound blasphemes. They probably also don't care their actions violate rules you have imposed upon yourself. They probably believe a different version of the facts than you do. I just don't understand the resentment you have towards someone else doing their own thing. Are you starting to see why they (and I for that matter) make fun of religion? I'm just calling a spade a spade too. Don't worry about people badmouthing Jesus. I'm pretty sure he's above resenting people for petty comments they make. He can take care of himself.
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World Spirit
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 Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#764520 - 07/21/02 11:36 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: World Spirit]
#764621 - 07/21/02 12:32 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wonder how any one person can determine what any other person's or group of people's "true" nature is.
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World Spirit
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Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: dragonia]
#764676 - 07/21/02 01:06 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: World Spirit]
#764901 - 07/21/02 02:53 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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I thought that none but god can know the heart of a man.
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World Spirit
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Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: dragonia]
#764912 - 07/21/02 02:58 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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pleezr
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Tool = the greatest band ever IMO
Maynard = the greatest song writer ever IMO
Pushit = the greatest Tool song ever IMO
I believe they have their own religion, yet Maynard did thank Satan at the....was it the MTV video awards? Something like that, I seen it.
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Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: World Spirit]
#764975 - 07/21/02 03:14 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fortunately enter, Hell is a lie. Also fortunately, Tool has no desire to make anyone hate Christianity, or any religion, only to share their music, and maybe get someone to question their beliefs to further them. And if this Christian interpretation of God is even half true, they wont need to pay for anything, as this God would know their true beliefs.. (Christianity isnt a bad thing, being blindly faithful with no questioning of anything and sucking down every fucking thing 'they' tell you without a second thought, is.)
They dont hate anyone, they dont want anyone to hate anything, just to express their thoughts/feelings, and maybe inspire someone to widen their beliefs and think for themselves.
They certainly never made ME hate Jesus/Christianity, exactly the opposite in fact.
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Hugh_Jass
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Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: ]
#765291 - 07/21/02 04:46 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think Tool's lyrics are meant to be preaching to their fans and tryign to get them to live their lfie a different way or anything , it's just their thoughts, or maybe they just want to shock people/make msuic that will shock peoples parents, just some rebellion, thats the main point satanisim, rebellion and freedom. There are many so called underground Satanic bands and I'd find it hard to belive that even a third of the members to actuly belive in it. (You don't know the meaning of blasphemous untill you've had the misfortune of reading bands like Marduk's lyrics.)
Tool don't like conformity and having organised relgion which could quiet possible be intereputed wrongly intereputly thanks to ignorant past society, shoved down their necks from birth.
I think the song about the relgious sheep is about all the people in the world who only 'belive' because their Parents sent them to church from when they were a kid and they dont lead a Christian life at all. Almost everyone in my area is relgious and goes to church regularly but I can only think of few that could be considered serious. I hope u get what i mean by that. By serious I don't mean faith.
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Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: World Spirit]
#765873 - 07/21/02 07:35 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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If Tool are going to Hell, I'm going with them to fucking party.
I have nothing against you enter, but I think what you have said is complete bullshit. Tool is positive music, and I can vouch for that. Demonic? Pffft, hardly. This is a band that doesn't take anything seriously and will test your faith in anything to get you to think for yourself. Why does it bother you so much that they don't believe in your religion? If you've ever actually heard Lateralus, you'd find that it's a very powerful and positive album.
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pleezr
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Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: Sheepish]
#765909 - 07/21/02 07:46 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Many have trouble interpreting their meaning. They will see the light 
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psillyshroompha
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Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: pleezr]
#766178 - 07/21/02 10:03 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Listen to THIRD EYE on a lot of LSD, and you will come as close to understanding Tool as humanly possible.
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To all the weed I've smoked,
this blunts for you.
To all the people I offended,
Fuck you too
To all the friends I used to have,
I miss my past.
But the rest of you assholes,
Can Kiss My Ass
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Re: What kind of music is Tool? [Re: World Spirit]
#766440 - 07/22/02 03:26 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's not a parallel argument. I'm badmouthing a band for who they truly are.
No you aren't. It's obvious to every Tool fan here you don't know who they really are or what they stand for.
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Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man. For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire. Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.
~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"
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Listen to THIRD EYE on a lot of LSD, and you will come as close to understanding Tool as humanly possible.
Amen.
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Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man. For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire. Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.
~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"
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