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Offlinewilshire
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unemployment
    #7547465 - 10/22/07 06:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

a friend of mine was fired from his job recently and is now collecting unemployment benefits.

i have a job, and part of my salary is taken to pay for unemployment benefits.

he makes more being on unemployment than i do working.

is this not absurd?


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Re: unemployment [Re: wilshire]
    #7547474 - 10/22/07 06:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I hate unemployment...

It's like a reward for doing SO SHITTY of a job at your old place of work that you had to get fired.


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Re: unemployment [Re: wilshire]
    #7547485 - 10/22/07 06:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

no its not absurd..unemployment is based on the money you made , so apparently he made alot more than you to begin with ,because you generally draw about 50% of what you would normally make


on the taking from your pay thats shit, every legal employer pays into unemployment for each worker they employee, so in essence you pay for nothing,your boss pays into it..

its there for a reason , and if you dont work you cant collect


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Re: unemployment [Re: CaptainKirk]
    #7547521 - 10/22/07 06:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea... more money the corporation has to pay out of its revenue.. money they could have paid you instead. It's all coming from your pocket one way or another.

And the business owner gets screw.. its just the gov't way of making them pay for lazy workers they fired even after they don't work there anymore..


And I don't buy into "corporations make enough money" bullcrap.... there are plenty of small businesses they have to pay that too


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Re: unemployment [Re: CaptainKirk]
    #7547531 - 10/22/07 06:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

no its not absurd..unemployment is based on the money you made

yes, i know that. that doesn't change anything.


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Re: unemployment [Re: wilshire]
    #7547639 - 10/22/07 06:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you make THAT LITTLE that his unemployment is still more than your regular pay checks.

so much for the communications degree, eh?


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Re: unemployment [Re: wilshire]
    #7547646 - 10/22/07 06:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know what state you live in but there should not be a deduction taken from your pay for unemployment insurance. I was not allowed to do that in NY And I don't exactly remember the calculation but I think it amounts to 1/2 pay up to a maximum. The maximum may well exceed your full time pay.


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Re: unemployment [Re: afoaf]
    #7547936 - 10/22/07 07:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i don't have a communications degree. i don't make a lot but i do ok. you don't know people that make twice what you do?

i just think it's insane that taxes are taken from my paycheck to give to people who are earning more and doing less.


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Re: unemployment [Re: wilshire]
    #7547943 - 10/22/07 07:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:borat:


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Re: unemployment [Re: wilshire]
    #7547963 - 10/22/07 07:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Unemployment insurance is not taken from your paycheck. It is not a tax. Nor does it last forever. And your own employment inadequacy has no bearing on his earnings.


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Re: unemployment [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7548013 - 10/22/07 07:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Unemployment insurance is not taken from your paycheck. It is not a tax.

it is in pennsylvania.

And your own employment inadequacy has no bearing on his earnings.

taxes are taken from my paycheck and given to other people. some of these people make more being on unemployment than i do by working. i make less so that they may make more - even past the point where they are receiving more income than i am. what's more, i work and they do not. i think that's pretty screwed up.


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Re: unemployment [Re: wilshire]
    #7548050 - 10/22/07 08:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

wilshire said:
Unemployment insurance is not taken from your paycheck. It is not a tax.

it is in pennsylvania.




That's different from the two states I worked in but OK
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And your own employment inadequacy has no bearing on his earnings.

taxes are taken from my paycheck and given to other people. some of these people make more being on unemployment than i do by working. i make less so that they may make more - even past the point where they are receiving more income than i am. what's more, i work and they do not. i think that's pretty screwed up.




Umm no, pumpkin, he is collecting based on he what he already paid into the system for his unemployment insurance. Tough shit. Get a better job.


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Re: unemployment [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7548269 - 10/22/07 08:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:

Umm no, pumpkin, he is collecting based on he what he already paid into the system for his unemployment insurance. Tough shit. Get a better job.




I love it when you talk dirty


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Re: unemployment [Re: johnm214]
    #7548274 - 10/22/07 08:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I know you do you savage rascal.


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Re: unemployment [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7548283 - 10/22/07 08:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

wilshire said:
Unemployment insurance is not taken from your paycheck. It is not a tax.

it is in pennsylvania.




That's different from the two states I worked in but OK
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And your own employment inadequacy has no bearing on his earnings.

taxes are taken from my paycheck and given to other people. some of these people make more being on unemployment than i do by working. i make less so that they may make more - even past the point where they are receiving more income than i am. what's more, i work and they do not. i think that's pretty screwed up.




Umm no, pumpkin, he is collecting based on he what he already paid into the system for his unemployment insurance. Tough shit. Get a better job.




How can you be for unemoloyment yet against welfare? Unemployment is the same shit... just another bunch of money you're forced to pay into by the goverment which pay for some asshole that doesn't know how to do his job right? Why not make it just like health care.. optional and you can only reap the benefits if you chose to ante up?


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Re: unemployment [Re: BrAiN]
    #7548309 - 10/22/07 08:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you guys amaze me.


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Re: unemployment [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7548318 - 10/22/07 08:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I amaze me too


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Re: unemployment [Re: BrAiN]
    #7548331 - 10/22/07 08:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I bet we amaze you for different reasons.


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Re: unemployment [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7548345 - 10/22/07 08:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm amazed at how I can almost fart on command

So you're probably right.


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Re: unemployment [Re: BrAiN]
    #7548481 - 10/22/07 09:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sometimes you draw mud.

Unemployment insurance is NOTHING at all like welfare. You can't collect if you've never paid (or been paid for) and you can't collect if you get fired for cause or quit and you can't collect if you don't try to get work to their satisfaction. Welfare? A little different.


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