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pazzy
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Fighting Trich
#7546996 - 10/22/07 01:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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On my last grow I had all of my casings get trich. Is there anything I can do to fight the green away. I have lysoled my entire grow area but I am still worried there are mould spores everywhere. Losing all of my projects was rather frustrating. Anything else I can do besides finding a completly new place to grow in?
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monstermitch
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Re: Fighting Trich [Re: pazzy]
#7548938 - 10/22/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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begin using massive fresh air exchange. constant, never-stopping air exchange.
buy a decent pH meter like the one below

and make sure all of your casings are a pH of 7.5-8.5 or so. hydrated lime is the tool for this. gypsum helps to add too for other reasons. read up on all of that casing stuff...
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pazzy
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Thanks mitch. Should I worry about air born spores or just focus on casing Ph.
I have read many different opinion about colonizing casings and fresh air exchange but still air must have been the culprit this time.
Thanks again, pazzy
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Re: Fighting Trich [Re: pazzy]
#7548993 - 10/22/07 09:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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stale air is the culprit. moving, turbulent air is your best friend.
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Re: Fighting Trich [Re: spock1]
#7549116 - 10/22/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fresh air constantly is best if you can maintain humidity. Your enemy isn't the mold spores that are in the air. Those are your enemy when you're doing your inoculations. By the time you get to the fruiting chamber, fresh air and pH control are your friends. You can always assume mold spores are going to be on your casing layers. The trick is to not give them the environment to germinate and grow. RR
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pazzy
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Most of my contaminations happened when the casings were colonizing before they were even put into the FC. Will fresh air rob the casings of co2 and make them colonize at a snails pace?
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Re: Fighting Trich [Re: pazzy]
#7551074 - 10/23/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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if your substrates contaminated before fruiting, the contamination cannot be fought with fresh air.
your technique is the problem.
either your grain was contaminated, or you didn't pasteurize your substrate correctly, or something along those lines.
so go back and re-examine your procedure and make some changes to it to improve your results.
substrates should have zero air exchange while colonizing. only gas exchange provisions. air exchange only comes into play for fruiting.
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pazzy
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Thanks I will be more careful and sterile next time around. Hopefully this attempt will be a success. Weird thing was they were colonizing the substrate really slow and 22 days in is when the trich settled in. Could have been the pasteurization though.
Thanks Mitch your a big help.
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Edited by pazzy (10/23/07 04:36 PM)
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