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Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine
#7546587 - 10/22/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine worth $500,000
October 22, 2007 - Associated
Press
SALEM, Ore. — A weekend traffic stop on Interstate 5
north of Salem
ended up in three arrests and the seizure of nearly 50 pounds of
cocaine worth about $500,000.
Oregon
State Police say two troopers and a drug detection dog made the bust
after a sport utility vehicle was spotted driving erratically last
Friday on the freeway near Woodburn.
When the troopers pulled over the SUV, the driver seemed "very
nervous." The police dog found a hidden compartment during a search,
and troopers found 46 pounds of cocaine and two pounds of crystal meth.
State troopers arrested the driver, 20-year-old Arturo
Madrid-Suarez of Mount Vernon, Washington, and two California men.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: veggie]
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500000 is a pretty conservative estimate at around 20 a gram, but I guess they took into account the quantity. But if it is very pure, could be worth upwards to a million.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: hooksbooks]
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" The police dog found a hidden compartment during a search, and troopers found 46 pounds of cocaine and two pounds of crystal meth."
So that totally = 50 pounds of coke
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: JollyJim]
#7548137 - 10/22/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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it said nearly 50 pounds. and coke isnt set at 20 dollars a gram so consider that.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: veggie]
#7549120 - 10/22/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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thank god they got busted...and it was so close to me. i hope all involved get life sentences.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: veggie]
#7551176 - 10/23/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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driving erratically
Deet Dee Deet!! some peoples kids!
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: enlightened seed]
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#7551931 - 10/23/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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EntheogenicPeace said: 'Driving erratically' is usually police-speak for racial profiling.
True, but not always! Statistically any number would be hard to prove?!?
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
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thank god they got busted...and it was so close to me. i hope all involved get life sentences.
I'm guessing that was sarcasm?
nope.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
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EntheogenicPeace said: So if somebody gets arrested for trafficking 50 lbs. of marijuana, you would support a life sentence?
actually, i would.
i believe that psychedelics should be legalized but controlled. i believe that anyone who's trying to make big money off of them shouldn't be entitled their freedom. small marijuana growers should have to pay taxes on the income the make from selling it. it would be hard to enforce, but it is possible.
as far as uppers and downers, they dont do anyone, or society in general any good, so i say eliminate them...unless prescribed by a doctor.
things like meth, cocaine, heroin...well, they just aren't good for anything, there's no need for an argument there.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
#7552662 - 10/23/07 08:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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EntheogenicPeace said: So if somebody gets arrested for trafficking 50 lbs. of marijuana, you would support a life sentence?
actually, i would.
i believe that psychedelics should be legalized but controlled. i believe that anyone who's trying to make big money off of them shouldn't be entitled their freedom. small marijuana growers should have to pay taxes on the income the make from selling it. it would be hard to enforce, but it is possible.
as far as uppers and downers, they dont do anyone, or society in general any good, so i say eliminate them...unless prescribed by a doctor.
things like meth, cocaine, heroin...well, they just aren't good for anything, there's no need for an argument there.
While you're entitled to your opinion, very few things actually make me wish to reply on any forum, I only enjoy reading what others have to say. But it hurts me so much to know that any drug user would be so inclinedl as to condemn another. I agree with your argument, and I regard cocaine especially as a mostly terrible thing (and have had my struggles with it and luckily put those days to rest), but if you truly believe that locking people up and throwing away the key will solve ANYTHING, please reconsider.
The moral, idea, whatever, that psychedelics are the only drugs worth using, fine--we're brothers in such thought (aside from many legal psychoactives, such as coffee for studying/working--I love and respect these drugs as I do psychedelics, just on a different level and for different reasons). However, letting that idea interfere with the fact that we are still breaking the law as much when we smoke a harmless bowl of marijuana is any different than breaking the law by snorting a line of deadly coke is almost like an ego problem. Prison won't help these drug pushers any more than it will the common addict. We should help these people instead of fuck them.
Would you like to be fucked for a psychedelic? No? Don't psychedelics promote love and equality? So why do you want to see your brother, even though using a drug you disapprove of, be fucked?
Think of all the spiritually minded people who are ignorant of psychedelics wonders, and would condemn you for what you love.
You use drugs...hope you get fucked, hope you get fucked. (think about it--everything = relative anyways, right?)
Again,your opinion simply hurts me and I feel that something must be said to count against it. I intend no assault on you as a person and--again--I do not disagree with your argument on these drugs, just the result lawfully. Peace.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: Merkabaster]
#7552756 - 10/23/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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EntheogenicPeace said: But you go on to say that law, that's people's freedoms should be based on your opinion of every issue.
because when drugs are sold and the income is not taxed, it hurts everyone. when drugs like meth are used, not only the user is hurt, but usually others in that persons actions.
it would be different if meth addicts kept to themselves and obeyed the law, but they just dont.
if everyone made their own drugs and obeyed the law, then it would great.
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Merkabaster said: We should help these people instead of fuck them.
good luck. it would nice if the world was a peaceful place full of love, but it isn't. i can guarantee you, if you try to help a meth addict, your just going to get ripped off.
meth/coke are the main things im talking about here.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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All I'm saying is there are fucked up people with or with out drugs. Most of the fuck ups are fucked up before they ever did any.
Sure drugs compound it ten fold, but then again the ones that do bounce back spread the resilient genes. it's like weeding out the weak willed gullible types. It's promoting the longevity of our species. In a odd oxymoronic way. Stead of looking at it as bad, look at it as cleansing.
I still don't want that shit around, but I plan on being real with my kids, letting them know the real dangers. Educate them myself. No one else will. I hung out on the street and saw the street eat kids. Almost ate me. Got chased out of town by the cops was a good thing, I educated myself about the streets. if my children are gonna run around the streets, i want them to be having fun, not hanging out in alleys and on the train tracks and at the tattoo studios and bars.
I don't know maybe it's the roll of the dice right? Everyone creates their own destiny right? Some people never listen, have to learn for them selfs. Others take what they hear as the truth and wash away all questions. Others get dirty exposed to the sun and the people, looking for information and new points of view at every chance they can get, some want it all, they want to know it all, feel and expierience the world. Some are content with a hard days work a six pack and a few 20's of rock. Others the bible, I myself like cheezits feet up and off the clock
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: Cheezit]
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Cheezit said: All I'm saying is there are fucked up people with or with out drugs. Most of the fuck ups are fucked up before they ever did any.
i dont think Merkabaster has actually came across a meth addict. if he had, he would know that there is no hope for some people.
Merkabaster, what about serial killers and rapist, they are our brothers, should we not lock them up? what about terrorists? should we be open to their ideas of killing us? should we open our minds up to our fellow brother child molesters?
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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i think we should adopt the dig a pit and put the addict in there till the kick is finished. Dirt walls and floor. Steal bars across the top. Food and water lowered down. Let them shit and what ever right on the floor next to them.
After you do this a few times, I'm sure you'd start to think about maybe staying clean. But then some people really have nothing, no support, no way to get up. Just lost people. No other mission then to fix the void.
I think it has to do with the way we alienate ourselves into smaller and smaller groups. Not even our close kin live in the area. We spend more time about work then social issues within the family and friend networks. Maybe this isn't the sole truth, but broken homes and disfunctional families do to over working and stresses within the famillies seem to be going on the up in up much like the drug trends of the past years. Maybe it's directly related to population growth? Maybe Tv? Maybe it's the water? Maybe it's generations of dumb people? Tought to be dumb and act stupid. Look at how these fucking idiots act today, they are all related. The world is going to shit and it's our past generations faults. Not saying we are safe from taking a nose dive but it's going to take some real good work.
Or was it always crazy? Maybe it's not that crazy and i'm just runnin on a tangent and not enough sleep.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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LayYouIn said: as far as uppers and downers, they dont do anyone, or society in general any good, so i say eliminate them...unless prescribed by a doctor.
things like meth, cocaine, heroin...well, they just aren't good for anything
Spoken like a true ignorant. Most likely you've never done these drugs, and so don't really know what you're condemning. I see lots of benefit to be had from cocaine, especially during meditation. I can think of no other drug that makes my thoughts clearer and easier to articulate than this drug does. There is just as much validity in thinking that no good comes from marijuana, that everyone who smokes it becomes stupid and lazy. These are negative stereotypes, and false ones.
Your bias is your hypocrisy, as of course there are many people who would wish you to be thrown in jail for life for simply advocating psychedelics. You possess the same harmful beliefs as these people do, you've only targeted a different group... which you've judged in your mind as being the same as what other anti-drug folk certainly judge you as being: worthless and harmful to society. You are as ignorant as they, and if you had your way you'd be as harmful and hindering to society as they are.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: Disco Cat]
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: Disco Cat]
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LayYouIn said: as far as uppers and downers, they dont do anyone, or society in general any good, so i say eliminate them...unless prescribed by a doctor.
things like meth, cocaine, heroin...well, they just aren't good for anything
Spoken like a true ignorant. Most likely you've never done these drugs, and so don't really know what you're condemning. I see lots of benefit to be had from cocaine, especially during meditation. I can think of no other drug that makes my thoughts clearer and easier to articulate than this drug does. There is just as much validity in thinking that no good comes from marijuana, that everyone who smokes it becomes stupid and lazy. These are negative stereotypes, and false ones.
Your bias is your hypocrisy, as of course there are many people who would wish you to be thrown in jail for life for simply advocating psychedelics. You possess the same harmful beliefs as these people do, you've only targeted a different group... which you've judged in your mind as being the same as what other anti-drug folk certainly judge you as being: worthless and harmful to society. You are as ignorant as they, and if you had your way you'd be as harmful and hindering to society as they are.
so you really think meth is a good drug?
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: Disco Cat]
#7556303 - 10/24/07 06:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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LayYouIn said: as far as uppers and downers, they dont do anyone, or society in general any good, so i say eliminate them...unless prescribed by a doctor.
things like meth, cocaine, heroin...well, they just aren't good for anything
Spoken like a true ignorant. Most likely you've never done these drugs, and so don't really know what you're condemning. I see lots of benefit to be had from cocaine, especially during meditation. I can think of no other drug that makes my thoughts clearer and easier to articulate than this drug does. There is just as much validity in thinking that no good comes from marijuana, that everyone who smokes it becomes stupid and lazy. These are negative stereotypes, and false ones.
Your bias is your hypocrisy, as of course there are many people who would wish you to be thrown in jail for life for simply advocating psychedelics. You possess the same harmful beliefs as these people do, you've only targeted a different group... which you've judged in your mind as being the same as what other anti-drug folk certainly judge you as being: worthless and harmful to society. You are as ignorant as they, and if you had your way you'd be as harmful and hindering to society as they are.
so you really think meth is a good drug?
i've done coke and meth, both only a few times. i was one of the people that knew that both of them are basically for the weak neglected type that Cheezit speaks of. the people that used them were sketchy low-lives that didn't think about the future.
i have yet to meet a smart meth user.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
#7559327 - 10/25/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think meth is a good drug FOR ME. I've known and dealt with a lot of the meth addicts of which you speak. I've had some shitty experiences with the drug myself. So yeah, I think meth is a shitty drug and I wouldn't do it.
My moral conviction, however, cannot justly be forced on anyone else. They have the right to smoke meth just as I have the right to abstain from it. For me to say: "You can't smoke meth", is basically the same as them saying: "You have to smoke meth."
If you don't like meth, don't do it. But you have no moral right to tell other people what to do.
You know, even though I don't like meth, I know several people who use it and don't have a problem. They work in offices, drive luxury cars, and live with their families in upscale suburban homes. Meth is a problem for SOME PEOPLE. Not all people. We all have different physiologies and we all respond differently to chemicals. There are successful meth heads, you just don't hear about them they way you hear about the fuckup ones.
and that is probably because the successful ones keep their use private for fear of being pigeonholed by bigoted morons. The negative effects of drug use on society are like a toupee. You can only spot the bad ones.
There are some people who can't handle alcohol. Having unlimited access to it turns them into sloven wrecks homelessly begging in the streets. Does that mean we should prohibit alcohol? Of course not! Why should I be restricted because of someone else's weakness? Personally, I don't like alcohol, or the effects it has on people. So I don't go to bars and keg parties. Its that simple.
Only bigoted policy exalts one form of intoxication over others. No one has the right to decide what other people can consume.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: wps]
#7560228 - 10/25/07 06:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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wps said: Meth is a problem for SOME PEOPLE. Not all people.
what about when meth addicts start stealing? what about when they start committing identity fraud?
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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well, you could say the same about alcohol. and the role it plays with crimes like fighting and drunk driving.
i really wonder what the statistics look like, comparing meth related crimes to alcohol related. if anyone knows anything, aside from an opinion, let me know.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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So? What about when crack addicts start committing crimes, or heroin addicts, or anyone else for that matter.
What makes methamphetamine so heinous in your opinion?
Anyhow, when a person starts stealing there are laws to address that. That person is committing a crime. I promise you a pile of meth crystals will not steal your identity.
People get drunk and commit crimes also. Maybe we should ban alcohol too?
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: MrKite1]
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MrKite1 said: Maybe we should ban alcohol too?
it would be best.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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MrKite1 said: Maybe we should ban alcohol too?
it would be best.
Because prohibition worked out so well the first time.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: MrKite1]
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The funny thing is, I've personally seen more marijuana related robberies than any involving another drug.
Drugs aren't the problem, people are. When a person infringes on another's liberties, whatever the reason may be, they should/will be prosecuted for it. Victimless crimes should have no merit.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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How can you say uppers and downers have never done society any good? Get a grip.
How many people can't function or be productive without their morning pot of coffee? How many people can't function or be productive without their morning handful of painkillers?
These are real strengths of these drugs that support the economy and therefore everyone's well-being. So what if someone prefers an adderall to a cup of coffee to get going? It's all for productivity, so therefore it benefits us all.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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wps said: Meth is a problem for SOME PEOPLE. Not all people.
what about when meth addicts start stealing? what about when they start committing identity fraud?
yes, thievery and identity fraud are problems. Thats why they are illegal, and I fully support prosecuting people for committing those crimes.
Its not so much meth that causes those crimes, its poverty. People get poor for a number of reasons, meth addiction only being one. There are plenty of phishers, scammers, and shoplifters out there that are not on meth.
Just because someone might be more likely to steal because they are on meth does not mean meth use by itself should be criminalized. People on alcohol are more likely to start fights. Doesn't mean alcohol should be criminalized.
You have to punish the CRIME, not the perceived 'cause' of the crime. Meth use in itself, only hurts the user. No one else is effected. Only when someone else is effected negatively (ie, the moment the meth user commits theft) is a crime committed. You can punish thievery all you want, but drug use by itself is not morally a crime.
there are plenty of people on meth who DON'T steal. There are plenty of drunks who DON'T start fights. Why punish them for the crimes of less well-behaved users? Why lump them all into the same category when responsible meth and alcohol users are innocent?
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: wps]
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wps said: Why lump them all into the same category when responsible meth and alcohol users are innocent?
because they should sacrifice for the ones who dont have self control.
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Re: Oregon police seize nearly 50 pounds of cocaine [Re: LayYouIn]
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because they should sacrifice for the ones who don't have self control.
Looks like psychedelics and any other mood or mind altering chemical or activity will need to be banned too.
Someone near here ran a red light and caused a serious multi vehicle collision the other day. I suppose I should sacrifice my driving privilege because he wasn't responsible behind the wheel.
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