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Share your personal Cosmology!
#7545938 - 10/22/07 07:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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How do you believe the Universe to work? Where does it come from, where does it go, and what's our place in it?
I invite you to venture beyond the boundaries of contemporary science into the realm of possibilities.
What, in your view, is the Big Picture?
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: Asante]
#7545940 - 10/22/07 07:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here's a birds eye view of mine:
I believe that there is an endless nothingness, and that within this nothingness "particles" of a kind we do not know yet are flying around and bumping into each other. This is the Void.
Where a couple of these collide they form a higher form of energy, which eventually gets pulled apart again into its components.
In this sea of emptiness and "particles" no energy can ever be lost. The components join, stick together for a while and then disband again.
If an incomprehensible number of particles end up in close enough proximity there is a tremendous explosion, a Big Bang, and this will form a material universe, such as ours.
This universe too will be torn apart until eventually nothing remains but the Void. Structures assemble and dissolve, this is the nature of all things.
Because the Void is infinitely large, at humongous distances it is filled with material Universes in all stages of formation and decomposition, like a neverending fireworks show of Big Bangs.
I also believe that the number of ways the "particles" can fit together is limited. Consider the "particles" to be bricks of LEGO, infinitely joining to form all sorts of "projects" of finite composition. If you can only get one tub of LEGO into one room, there's only so many things you can build.
Because there is a limited number of forms that can be created, and because creation and destruction are an endless cycle, everything that can be created will be created into infinity, and in fact at any time it is present in an infinite number of locations.
This goes for material universes, this goes for planet earth and this goes for the essence of you.
Somewhere in your structure is a thing that makes you, well, you. It's not your experiences, your thoughts, your body, your senses, none of that. It is a small part of your organism and all it does is be you.
The You is a combination of factors that occurs in certain lifeforms. (you'd probably need a brain, for one) It may be hardware or software or a bit of both, but the bottom line is that it's a structure of limited complexity.
Given all the above, there can only be one conclusion: The essence of You shall reincarnate in all its possible guises, forever. You will have every possible body and every possible mind in every possible location in every possible way. This succession of lives is a cycle too, and it will last forever.
So there you have it: The Universe is infinite yet it is limited, and you will reincarnate in every possible way forever. When you move away from something you are moving towards it. Enjoy the ride!
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: Asante]
#7554446 - 10/24/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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What, nobody?
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: Asante]
#7555048 - 10/24/07 01:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i still have not come to a conclusion. 
where it all began and where/if it will end? i've spent a lot of time pondering...
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: Asante]
#7557442 - 10/24/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: What, nobody?
Personal Cosmology? Sounds like P&S to me.
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: maggotz]
#7557846 - 10/25/07 02:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Neither have I.
I dont really ponder these sorts of things often either.
When a new idea strikes me, or when im presented with some sort of fact or theory about the nature of the universe I usually try and seek out information that supports such claims/ideas. Theres something very satisfying with knowing the truth. For me, asking questions that just cannot hope to be answered dont really stimulate me in any way. And as bad as it sounds, thinking about the existence of god or the beginning of time are just as much a waste of time as watching tv, I think.
These sorts of thoughts are pretty common in my mushroom trips though. Maybe Ive just started forcing myself not to think about this stuff in my sober state, I dont know if its necessary for me to fix this 
Maybe an ego death will change stuff down the road...
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: Acyl]
#7558134 - 10/25/07 06:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i like to watch tv.
but i know what you mean, i do however, spend time thinking about stuff like this. trying to wrap my head around things such as what exactly was there before the universe? how can there have been nothing and then, out of the blue, there was everything? is time travel possible?
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: DieCommie]
#7558835 - 10/25/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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DieCommie said:
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Wiccan_Seeker said: What, nobody?
Personal Cosmology? Sounds like P&S to me.
100% Agreed.
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: DieCommie]
#7559519 - 10/25/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd like to get the opinion of a scientific-minded crowd, I think answers to what makes the Universe tick are more likely found among scientists than among philosophers.
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: Asante]
#7560090 - 10/25/07 05:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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what are your opinions on time travel?
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: Asante]
#7560581 - 10/25/07 08:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have you read any of Stephen Hawkings work? Mainly 'A brief history of time'? Its a good read, check it out.
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: Acyl]
#7560592 - 10/25/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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do you have it as pdf?
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: maggotz]
#7561329 - 10/25/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: johnm214]
#7561835 - 10/26/07 04:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Share your personal Cosmology! [Re: maggotz]
#7562471 - 10/26/07 10:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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what are your opinions on time travel?
If you see the cosmos as I see it (second post) you might as well conclude that the physical universe is entirely static, and that we are not moving through a thing called "time" but that we all the time hop from one static "frame" to the next, like frames in a movie.
This is travel at infinite speed from one static material universe to the next, hops that can span distances of trillions upon trillions of lightyears each, and this a mind-boggling number of times per second, each second, to create the illusion of the physical universe actually moving.
If you believe in freedom of choice (which I don't) then the pathway you take is NOT fixed, you can hop from A to B or C.
If this is the case, and we can get our finger behind how this hopping occurs and manipulate it, we can travel forwards and backwards in time, because its really travelling in alternate destinations. You can "time travel" or "distance travel" (which is the same thing) at infinite velocity because if this is the mechanism behind time, all laws of physics in that respect become negotiable.
You can be anywhere at any point in "time" and there can be multiple instances of you there. Every single miracle of the bible and other mysticism becomes a possibility. If you curve the timeline from where Lazerus lies dead in his tomb to an alternate universe where he's just in a coma, you can bring Lazerus back from the dead.
Since humans hop from A to B without need for scientific apparatus, and we might have a possibility that we can choose our destination, we might be able to hop from A to very unusual places. In such a universe a miracle worker like Jesus could be a person able to alter the paths, and take himself and his followers on a miraculous trip trough the universe where water turns to wine and so forth, just to show them the power of the mind. His repeated message that all humans can perform these miracles then may well be a very practical and scientifically sound message, one that has been mystified by those who didn't understand it.
Wouldn't that be awesome 
But I believe that the path is fixed, that you go from A to B to C without being able to change your destination. We are being taken for a ride that will never end, which will lead to every destination in every possible sequence. Nothing can take your immortality or your ability to re-experience everything away from you.
And that's pretty damn awesome too, if not more so
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