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Offlineevilhomer
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Planning a Trip - Some Questions
    #7545814 - 10/22/07 05:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hey everyone,

Well basically my drug history includes alcohol (including absinthe) and weed. I handle weed well, and never get paranoid or any of that. So I don't consider myself a heavy drug user. I loved the more-a-less mild effects of absinthe and weed, and I have always told myself that I'm never going to do ice, heroin, LSD or ecstasy. I never really considered mushrooms though.

So anyways I was doing some research today and I figure a mentally stable adult such as myself is about due for a mushroom trip. I've got a week long holiday coming up with two good friends with no work or anything like that. One is an inexperienced drug user and will likely serve as a "spotter", where as my other friend has taken LSD.

So basically, I've got a couple of questions.

1. How easy are shrooms to come by? I live in Australia. Are they as freely available as ice/LSD?

2. I've heard rumors of "perpetual" trips that last months or even years. I'm 99% sure this is just BS, but I'd thought I'd check. My research so far has lead me to believe that this is a load of crap.

3. How long should I hold off drinking for after the trip?

Cheers!


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: evilhomer]
    #7545822 - 10/22/07 06:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

WHO KNOWS, MAAAAANNNNN


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ophanim]
    #7545840 - 10/22/07 06:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Cool dude :smile: Thanks for the info. Yeah I wasn't particularly worried about number 2, just thought I'd check.

Now all I have to do is find some :laugh: I'll call a few friends with contacts tomorrow and see what I can do. I'm psyched now.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: evilhomer]
    #7546084 - 10/22/07 09:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

1: I think there are a few pouched mammals around here that could answer your questions about the marketplace and availability in their areas in Oz. If you wait around or put in a topic like "availability of shrooms in Aus. vs lsd/etc" that might work. Someone with local knowledge will drop in sometime.

2: I dunno much about the seriousness of HPPD, personally doesnt seem like its a big thing to me, even if I got it, that might be an interesting way of living.

3: Alcohol wont affect much if you have already finished tripping a day earlier, but I dunno I always feel like alcohol is really bad after I trip, not in terms of how it will follow up on the shrooms, but just makes me stupid and I dont like the feeling after such a mind opening experience on shrooms.

I think there is no issues with drinking, just dont do it before or while on shrooms, may fuck up your trip pretty bad.

Otherwise, I think you are good to go, and from my end, Happy Tripping!!!!

P.S. Say hello to the wombats for me. They seem like they could be cool to trip with.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: gmuralid]
    #7546100 - 10/22/07 09:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i know what is meant by hppd and basically its really only noticable when i'm sitting on the can staring at the wallpaper. I've noticed that patterns tend to morph slightly as if i was on a very low dose of mushrooms, but only if i stare for a little bit.

It certainly doesnt get in the way of everyday living such as driving, other work like that so dont worry about it affecting you in a negative way.

Personally, i'm indifferent to it, i dont enjoy it but i dont dislike it either. It certainly isnt anything to worry about.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
    #7546222 - 10/22/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

HPPD is only an occurrence in someone if it affects your daily life. I think most everyone has after effects at least for a short period of time after taking a hallucinogen, but only if it affects the way you life are you considered afflicted with HPPD.

If it doesn't affect your life, I would prefer to call it 'cheap entertainment' :wink:


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ophanim]
    #7546845 - 10/22/07 01:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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ZeeMox said:
"Flashbacks," which are different from HPPD, are acid-exclusive as far as I know.






That is an extremely incorrect statement. "Flashbacks" are a result of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder or state-dependent learning. Both of these can occur on ANY psychedelic, including mushrooms.

To the OP: Don't touch heroin or ice, your fear of LSD while not being afraid of mushrooms is misguided IMO. While not all psychedelics are made the same, when talking about non-RCs (Primarily LSD, mushrooms, and mescaline) they are similar enough that if you are afraid of one, logically speaking, you should be afraid of them all. Same goes for not being afraid. IMO, fear of psychedelics is misguided and misinformed. After all, why be afraid of your own mind? :wink:


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ness1]
    #7546891 - 10/22/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

His fear probably is not of the effects, but the fact that it's a chemical. Even though LSD is pretty much the safest drug you can put in your body, a lot of people don't like the idea of chemicals. Maybe OP hasn't researched how safe LSD is yet.

On the other hand, if he feels safer with something organic like Mushrooms or Peyote, all I have to say is go for it. It's pretty much on par with LSD as far as danger (or lack thereof) is, but if it gives him piece of mind, more power to him


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7546913 - 10/22/07 01:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I get what you're saying, it's just that I try to stomp out myths and irrationality when it comes to drugs as much as I possibly can. Sometimes this comes off wrong, probably because I'm bad at explaining things lol. IMO, ignorance about drugs is the single biggest tool that prohibitionists have in their arsenal. The more we can chip away at that, the better!


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ness1]
    #7547129 - 10/22/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You should not be afraid of LSD, evilhomer. In fact, LSD is considered the "standard" to which all other psychedelics are compared to, so if anything, it should be the first substance you try.

However I guess I won't change your mind and it's not that big of a deal. It might take a while for shrooms to show up in fact I'd be worried if you can even find any by the time your break shows up! So hopefully you'll get lucky! Make sure you take about 2g for your first time, and just have a good time. On 2g you will still be aware of your surroundings and whatnot so don't expect to go "crazy" or anything. How long should you hold off drinking... well I know that shrooms induce somewhat of a nausea in your stomach, so I don't think you'll have a problem not drinking for 24 hours.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ness1]
    #7547211 - 10/22/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: evilhomer]
    #7547213 - 10/22/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Also, I have a few shroomers from Aus on my list. Aus has the perfect climate for them to grow naturally so they shouldn't be too hard to get a hold of if you know the right people.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ness1]
    #7547235 - 10/22/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Just checkin in yo


Edited by Ophanim (06/16/09 08:35 PM)


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7547243 - 10/22/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

And I mean that.


Edited by Ophanim (06/16/09 08:36 PM)


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ophanim]
    #7547274 - 10/22/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly, I'm referring to mental problems because LSD has NEVER been shown to be neurotoxic or cause any actual physical damage in any way.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ophanim]
    #7547360 - 10/22/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Except LSD is so potent that there wouldn't be any toxic effects from impurities in large enough quantities to do anything. You could make arsenic blotter and it wouldn't do shit.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7549490 - 10/22/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I wouldn't so much say that I'm 'afraid' of LSD at all, but as has been said, I don't really know much about it. I know it's not on par with Ice and Heroin though. I just feel a whole lot safer putting something in my body if it's come out of the ground. I'll get to researching LSD though. I've got nothing against people who use LSD at all.

Thanks for all the posts and recommendations :smile:. I called up a good friend and he said he can get them easy, and that he's bought them before, knows how to identify them etc.

Cheers guys!


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: evilhomer]
    #7549502 - 10/22/07 11:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Wow great.
Tell us how it goes, we always like hearing these things


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ophanim]
    #7549565 - 10/22/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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A good friend of mine did LSD for five solid years some time ago and has given me reason to believe that the "LSD can crystalize on your spine and take up to 7 years to go away" thing. Two years after he dropped the stuff he went to the chiropractor, got cracked and blam - fifteen second acid trip. Not really a bad thing in my books, mind you, but worth noting that it IS a reality.




I still don't know if I believe this, I've gone to the chiropractor since lsd and nothing like that happened to me.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Love Cap]
    #7549633 - 10/22/07 11:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Love Cap said:
Quote:

A good friend of mine did LSD for five solid years some time ago and has given me reason to believe that the "LSD can crystalize on your spine and take up to 7 years to go away" thing. Two years after he dropped the stuff he went to the chiropractor, got cracked and blam - fifteen second acid trip. Not really a bad thing in my books, mind you, but worth noting that it IS a reality.




I still don't know if I believe this, I've gone to the chiropractor since lsd and nothing like that happened to me.




you got jipped then :wink:

As for shrooms vs LSD... they're both essentially chemicals, they just have different mediums; shrooms have flesh and acid has blotter. They are really similar molecules as well.

Coming from the ground or a "naturally" occuring substance shouldn't make a difference.

AIDS/the plague/cancer/death is naturally occuring, doesn't make me want to get it


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: learningtofly]
    #7549664 - 10/23/07 12:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think saying AIDS/cancer is natural is arguable.. it could be something that we manifested since the industrial revolution. As for death and the plague, nature has to keep population control for resources.
as for mushrooms, they were obviously put here from mother nature to give us a taste of spirituality and other realms.:mushroom2:


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Love Cap]
    #7549673 - 10/23/07 12:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

do you at least get my point though? okay how about Death caps, they're natural and we didnt make em.

The point being just because its natural doesn't make it good/any better than something "unnatural" which is a weird word because the compound obviously exists somewhere.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: learningtofly]
    #7549766 - 10/23/07 01:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, mushrooms contain 4-HO-DMT, which can be synthed in a lab. Everything is chemicals :P Although, I will say that to me at least, psilocin feels more "earthy" than LSD. Whether this is all in the mindset (I don't think so, I didn't expect them to feel any particular way), because they are natural, or it's just a coincidence I don't know. Just thought I'd throw that out there.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ness1]
    #7549923 - 10/23/07 04:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I see the point. I'm just saying that when something is grown in the ground, you know what's in it. I'm not saying that synthetic drugs are unsafe so to speak, or that ground grown drugs are safer, but personally I'd trust a ground substance more.

Realistically though, I'm a "noob" to all this kind of stuff. I'm learning though, and this thread has helped :smile:


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ophanim]
    #7550866 - 10/23/07 01:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

ZeeMox said:
A good friend of mine did LSD for five solid years some time ago and has given me reason to believe that the "LSD can crystalize on your spine and take up to 7 years to go away" thing. Two years after he dropped the stuff he went to the chiropractor, got cracked and blam - fifteen second acid trip. Not really a bad thing in my books, mind you, but worth noting that it IS a reality.




Now that I think of it that makes 100% zero sense. If LSD really collected in your spine and cracking it released it, he would have had a full-blown acid trip, not a 15 second one. LSD is LSD and the pharmacokinetics of it are constant.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ness1]
    #7550999 - 10/23/07 01:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Ness1 said:
Quote:

ZeeMox said:
A good friend of mine did LSD for five solid years some time ago and has given me reason to believe that the "LSD can crystalize on your spine and take up to 7 years to go away" thing. Two years after he dropped the stuff he went to the chiropractor, got cracked and blam - fifteen second acid trip. Not really a bad thing in my books, mind you, but worth noting that it IS a reality.




Now that I think of it that makes 100% zero sense. If LSD really collected in your spine and cracking it released it, he would have had a full-blown acid trip, not a 15 second one. LSD is LSD and the pharmacokinetics of it are constant.




:congrats:


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ness1]
    #7551004 - 10/23/07 01:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This thread sucks. Boooo.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ophanim]
    #7551271 - 10/23/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

And the reason that I bring up that it makes no sense is that it isn't good to give people a reason to believe silly myths like "LSD collects in your spine". Especially when the root of the myth can easily be traced back to a particular study. If you think cracking your back will give you a 15-second acid trip, it probably will. Much more so if you're experienced with it and thus familiar with the state.


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Re: Planning a Trip - Some Questions [Re: Ness1]
    #7551397 - 10/23/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Why everyone ignore me.


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