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Re: as much as I hate the sun[Re:auweia] [Re: CureCat]
    #8011455 - 02/12/08 12:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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CureCat said:
Are you kidding?

There is no reason to rip out the Cyan patches in favour of the Azures. Surely all your property is not covered yet.




aree & if it is then i would love to help you get rid of all those evil funguys


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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: CureCat]
    #8011469 - 02/12/08 12:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:crankbowcloud:
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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: notapillow]
    #8011528 - 02/12/08 12:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

WEll, I could talk about mycology until you fall asleep, but i dunno about "stories"...


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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: CureCat]
    #8012412 - 02/12/08 08:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

lets talk mycology. What would work better as spawn. Wbs or rye grain?

Why does powdery looking mycelium on agar start looking rhizomorphic when it has been transfered and sandwiched on a new dish?


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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: tahoe]
    #8013096 - 02/12/08 12:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

>What would work better as spawn. Wbs or rye grain?

Whichever colonizes faster... Once spawned to woodchips, it doesn't really matter as the nutrients in the spawn are mostly depleted, so of course the important issue would be what kind of wood you are spawning to and how quickly that colonizes as well as propensity to contamination.



>Why does powdery looking mycelium on agar start looking
>rhizomorphic when it has been transfered and sandwiched on a
>new dish?

I have no idea why mycelium changes it's growth pattern or type when exposed to new media....


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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: CureCat]
    #8014543 - 02/12/08 07:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

MUHAHAAAAAjust saw news chance rain kicking back up next week !!!

rain dance time LOLOLOL

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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: CureCat]
    #8014867 - 02/12/08 08:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

edited out


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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: auweia]
    #8015469 - 02/12/08 10:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

edited out


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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: auweia]
    #8015741 - 02/12/08 11:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

im sure cyans in one for  or another have existed aorund the west coast since pre history

or at leased thats what they tell me :wink: :mushroomgrow:


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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: CureCat]
    #8015786 - 02/12/08 11:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:thumbup:  Cool specimens, CureCat.  Very interesting.  Do you think the wrinkled gills is a result of their environment (dry air/substrate etc)?  Or maybe because the caps are underdeveloped...or both?  Don't some Psilocybe species tend to exhibit this trait?  Is it P. caerulipes or perhaps P. ovoideocystidiata?  I'm not saying those are they, just that I remember seeing that same gill pattern in other species.  Sorry for all the questions.  Whatever those are they are super cool number one awesome and deserve more study of course.


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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: BaldCuban]
    #8015829 - 02/13/08 12:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I am pretty sure that the gills are waiting for the cap to expand to keep up with the growth rate of the gills.


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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: tahoe]
    #8015886 - 02/13/08 12:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I thought that might be the case, but I have seen many underdeveloped Psilocybes that do not have wrinkled gills. Hmmmm...


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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: BaldCuban]
    #8015943 - 02/13/08 12:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

>Do you think the wrinkled gills is a result of their environment (dry air/substrate etc)?

I doubt it very much. If they are like the other patch i know of that produces what appear to be the same species, then no. I say this because the Oakland patch I'm thinking of stays extremely wet, and yet the gills are ALWAYS wavy.



>Or maybe because the caps are underdeveloped...or both?

Again, if they are like the Oakland patch, then no. Even at maturity, the lamelle are still slightly wavy. But obviously, they are more wavy when young. Though, as you pointed out, many species of Psilocybe never display this trait at any stage.



>Don't some Psilocybe species tend to exhibit this trait? Is it P. caerulipes or perhaps
>P. ovoideocystidiata? I'm not saying those are they, just that I remember seeing that
>same gill pattern in other species.

Yes, another species (which these resemble quite remarkably) has consistently wavy lamelle. That is Ps. ovoideocystidiata. They are VERY similar looking on a number of characteristics, however, microscopically they are closer to Ps. subaeruginascens.


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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: CureCat]
    #8016028 - 02/13/08 12:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

cc,
Did you ever tell us what species those are up there? are they the ps. sub-whatever or the ps. go to oregon and pick your own?


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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: tahoe]
    #8016046 - 02/13/08 12:50 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I describe them here (thanks to Peter of course, for filling us in on the nitty gritty):
http://www.mushroomobserver.org/6772

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A thus unofficially documented species of Psilocybe which keeps showing up in Northern California, Bay Area.
It is considerably less common than Ps. cyanescens or the the other undocumented “Ps. cyanofriscosa”.
Microscopically, these mushrooms resemble Ps. subaeruginascens, a species originally collected from Java, and subsequently described from Japan. However, the two collections are in limbo between being split into separate species, or sub-species. The Java collection would be Ps. septrionalis(=Ps. subaeruginascens var. septrionalis), and the Japanese collection remaining Ps. subaeruginascens based on Guzman’s working concept of the species.
The Bay Area collections match microscopically with the Japanese collections, however, they may very well be a separate species or sub-species.
On a side note, the macro morphology of some CA collections (this one especially) bear uncanny resemblance to the recently discovered east coast species Ps. ovoideocystidiata, though they do not seem to match on the micro level.




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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: CureCat]
    #8016062 - 02/13/08 12:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Tahoe you throwin things around again LOLLOLOLLOLOLOLOL




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Re: as much as I hate the sun [Re: CureCat]
    #8016264 - 02/13/08 02:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well this is just so cool. I do love a good mystery. As some questions are answered only more arise. I am glad to live in such times and a place of new discoveries.
The world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth and I smell it in the air.


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    #8023328 - 02/14/08 05:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hi, I'm a Bay Area citizen who lives in a small coastal town outside SF.

Does anyone know if anything can grown in Eucalyptus tree bark that peels off the trees and tends to collect around the bases of the tree? I've read the searching near redwoods is no good but does anyone know about the eucalyptus?

Also, would anyone happen to know if caps don't grow at certain elevations? There are alot of parks near my house with trails that go up into the hills.

thanks!!!!!!


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Re: Hi there [Re: n0nservatum]
    #8023704 - 02/14/08 06:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

since you asked so nicely for your first post I will tell you what I know.
The soil around eucalyptus is super acidic due to the leaves and bark. Some swear that the mushrooms love eucalyptus but I do not think so. I have seen them colonize the nuts that fall from the trees and they do love the wood from feld branches but I do not think they like the bark. I am sure that they can colonize the bark and digest it but not a readily as wood.
If you live above santa cruz then they probably grow at the park. They grow everywhere in the bay. Elevation itself does not play a part in where they grow but tempertures do.
It is highly unlikely that you will find any this season. Wait until next fall and check out your areas


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Re: Hi there [Re: tahoe]
    #8024142 - 02/14/08 07:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

edited out


Edited by auweia (02/20/08 04:06 PM)


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