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A question about a possible first grow
    #7545313 - 10/21/07 11:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Just a little background first, Im a college student in San Francisco, and Ive smoked weed for a while and have recently become interested in more intense psychadelics. Ive been doing a lot of research and am thinking I might want to try growing some shrooms.

So, Ive read a few TEKs and the part I get stuck at is sterilizing the cakes. In the teks I have read after you put substrate(or whatever you want to call it) in jars, the jars are sterilized with a pressure cooker or something similar. Being a college student I cant just blow a lot of money like that and it might raise suspicion if im carrying a pressure cooker into my room. Is there any easier way to sterilize the cakes, or is it not going to be possible for me to grow?

Thanks for taking the time to read this, hopefully you guys can think of a solution for this problem.


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: fear.loathingSF]
    #7545332 - 10/22/07 12:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You cake boil BRF cakes, if no PC is available.


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: fear.loathingSF]
    #7545334 - 10/22/07 12:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Its really not that expensive, suspicious, or impractical to use/have a pressure cooker. There are some other not as reliable methods, but I don't know any of them.

Its just easy man. Easy.

Solution: sterilize them with your mind powers! Visualize heat inside the jars. By putting all the jars really close to each other you can quickly sterilize an entire batch. Wait... no. Go buy a pressure cooker.


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: SimonJester]
    #7545353 - 10/22/07 12:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hey there - I know exactly what you mean! I'm in the same situation as you, and have come up with the following options:

1) Instead of PC'ing for 20~30 minutes at 15psi, boil with the lid on using a normal pot for at least an hour. Leave to cool overnight and then inoculate the jars.

2) Microwave the jars for 10 minutes on high [each], then wait 5 minutes and nuke again for the same amount of time. Leave to cool and then inoculate.

People have posted that they have good results with each method, so I'm not going to question them on it. Hope you get into the shrooming game, I'm about to do my first grow myself, good luck and godspeed!


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7545386 - 10/22/07 12:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Captain Cubensis said:
You cake boil BRF cakes, if no PC is available.




a point to add is that you should fill the pot with cold water
3/4 of the way up the jars. make sure they're held in place
and secure. then boil the water and let them boil for 90 minutes.


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: boingkster]
    #7545397 - 10/22/07 12:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the quick replies guys

I cant boil the jars in a pot either. The problem is that im in a dorm so I cant just go around boiling little "jars of mud" in the kitchen.

Ive been looking around on some of the shroomery sponsor websites and have found these sterilized bags prefilled with substrate that have a special patch that you can stick a syringe through. Does anyone know what im talking about or have opinions on how well they work?

If this isnt a good option, maybe ill look for a special spot in golden gate park to do a small outdoor grow, perhaps that would be easier?


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: fear.loathingSF]
    #7545424 - 10/22/07 12:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

those bags are a good option.
mushbox has a compost bag that you can fruit right inside of.
that might be ideal for your situation.
but growing in your situation is not advised.
you really should wait until you have your own place.
and yes, I've personally tried the bags, they really do work good.


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: monstermitch]
    #7545534 - 10/22/07 01:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)



Go to youtube.com and look up pf tek


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: YeagerBomb]
    #7545765 - 10/22/07 05:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

A pressure cooker suspicioius?

There are many many uses for a pressure cooker, mainly cooking.

I dont see how someone seeing a pressure cooker sitting there is gonna think, oh hes sterilising substrate for growing mushies.

I dont think it's really a good idea for you to be growing if you have to be that secretive.

Its all fine and well, keeping your grow to yourself (dont wont loud mouths spreading it around) but i think the point where you think that pressure cooking or boiling could be suspicious is the cut of point.


Where are people getting this PC for 20-30 minutes from, or bloiling for 60 minutes?? Is there some secrete teks around, and most of us are just following teks that make is work longer??

60 minutes for PC or 90 for boiling


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: monstermitch]
    #7546050 - 10/22/07 08:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

monstermitch said:
those bags are a good option.
mushbox has a compost bag that you can fruit right inside of.
that might be ideal for your situation.
but growing in your situation is not advised.
you really should wait until you have your own place.
and yes, I've personally tried the bags, they really do work good.




Awesome ill check those out when I get a chance later today. Yeah I know it would not be advised to grow in my situation, but from my experience so far, as long as I dont say a word to anyone I shouldnt have any problems. There has been one " health and safety inspection" and they dont want to bust anyone, they dont open any drawers or closets or anything, if you have something illegal out in plain sight is the only time you would get a problem, but anyways...

Right now im just doing some more research and trying to figure out how much I could yield in a small grow. Ill post again after I have some more specifics about my plan and maybe you guys can help me decide if it would be more worth my time and money just to go out and buy shrooms.

And a question to the few who said a PC wouldn't be suspicious, how many college students do you see walking around campus with pressure cookers and bringing them into their rooms, I dont know, maybe im overly paranoid but it seems kinda out of the ordinary to me.

Thanks for all the help so far!


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: fear.loathingSF]
    #7546386 - 10/22/07 11:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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And a question to the few who said a PC wouldn't be suspicious, how many college students do you see walking around campus with pressure cookers and bringing them into their rooms, I dont know, maybe im overly paranoid but it seems kinda out of the ordinary to me.






I also agree that pressure cookers are a conspicuous item for a college student to have. Luckily, you don't need one.


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: veilbreaker]
    #7546470 - 10/22/07 11:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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veilbreaker said:
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fear.loathingSF said:

And a question to the few who said a PC wouldn't be suspicious, how many college students do you see walking around campus with pressure cookers and bringing them into their rooms, I dont know, maybe im overly paranoid but it seems kinda out of the ordinary to me.






I also agree that pressure cookers are a conspicuous item for a college student to have. Luckily, you don't need one.




Not to over simplify things, but if you DID get a pressure cooker, you could always carry it in a plain brown box...


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: Slimz]
    #7546580 - 10/22/07 11:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I guess it wouldnt be that difficult to bring in a pressure cooker without arousing suspicion, but Im not sure if I want bulky cooking supplies cluttering my room, Im going to keep this as low key as possible.

I saw those compost bags and they look ideal for my situation, if anyone has more information, opinions, or maybe a link to a tek that used compost bags that would be awesome. Im browsing the web right now just trying to learn as much as I can, and it would be great if you guys could post anything that might help me here.


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: fear.loathingSF]
    #7546609 - 10/22/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Pre-sterilized from mushbox... GO!

Seriously, you can even fruit in the bag if you're a lazy bum


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: fear.loathingSF]
    #7546618 - 10/22/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

There are a lot of weird ass people in college (Im currently in college atm) and there's no telling what hobbies/leisurely things people like to do. Seeing somebody walk in with a pressure cooker (I'd expect you wouldn't be carrying it right out anyhow, maybe in a box or packed up with other things) is like seeing somebody walk in with a thing of golf clubs and bag or fishing equipment. There's too much of a diversity to notice anything suspicious of a pressure cooker. Unless you have restrictions with cooking and certain utilities being used in the dorms, you shouldn't have a problem with it. Btw, what kind of dorms are you living in? Do you have utilities and such to work with in there?


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: HappyHardcore]
    #7546652 - 10/22/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This is a great simple tek to follow using poo bags...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5278987/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

I would also advise you to read up as much as you can about invitro poo bags. It's not just following a tek as much as you can that will gain you success, but the more knowledge you can gain and put towards your experience will help you out much more. Teks usually show you how to do it, reading/studying/experiences will make you understand how to do it :smile:

Monstermitch is a great person to learn from, especially from poo bags. They seem to be his way of choice and he knows a lot about them and this hobby in general. I'd say go to his profile and look at his "journal". You can find a lot of what you're looking for there, and read some of the other stuff too because it's interesting and informing :smile: The link to the tek I just gave you is the basic way to use poo bags and should work well for you... Goodluck now! :smile:


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: HappyHardcore]
    #7547093 - 10/22/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Perfect link, exactly what I was looking for. I dont wanna rush anything so I think what I will do is research for a few months, and then try my first grow either when I go home for winter break or after I come back. I have a felling if I try before winter break I would have to rush things too much and the shrooms would not even be ready for harvest before I have to go home. I guess ill just lurk around the forums getting as much info on poo bags as I can and maybe ill do a journal of my first grow when I start it up in a few months.

Thanks so much for all the help everyone, and post any other links you think may help me out!


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: fear.loathingSF]
    #7547112 - 10/22/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Pressure cookers are definitely worth it man, trust me they aren't even that much. It's the only way you know that it's completely sterile. If you really look around you could find a nice 8 quart PC for like $30. And dude that is not suspicious at all, nobody would even have the slightest idea of what it's for.


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Re: A question about a possible first grow [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7547170 - 10/22/07 02:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

And if they do, it's probably only because they've considered growing it themselves. Also, having a pressure cooker isn't illegal. If anyone asks, tell them it's for cooking. You can spaghetti sauce so you just make a big batch and heat it up or whatever. Tell them it's none of their business.

And you could also learn to actually cook with a PC. There's tons of shit you can make in it and it'll cook it really fucking fast.


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