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TheHauntingSoul
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Registered: 03/15/05
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Mushroom Families
#7545240 - 10/21/07 11:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok so i went back to the local headshop that i bought the so called "psilocibe prodigy" syringe from and asked the guy what the deal was.
For those of you who dont already know, i am a good month into my first grow with this syringe, i was just curious if he knew which strain 'prodigy' was and this is what he told me:
He said that with weed you have sativa and indica, but with shrooms theres like 4 or 5 different families of shrooms and each family has hundreds of different types. He said that 'prodigy' is a name of one of the mushroom families and he isnt sure what strain the syringe is.
He also said that ecuador is a really visual trip but the 'prodigy' strain is much more of a body buzz.
Is he feeding me bullshit? I've never heard of mushroom famlies before and i'm not sure i believe that different strains produce different effects but if anyone can validate/invalidate this i'd like to know. Thanks.
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dysphoria
lost soul


Registered: 06/04/03
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hes feeding you bullshit. at least in terms of name of 'prodigy' and such, as no such strain exists to my knowledge, or any vendors of shroomery, that i know of.
now, there are substrains of cubensis, and there are only a handful of them, and from them, you have various 'strains' of cubensis, that fall into those categories. though at current, im a little hazy on my psilocybe cubensis phylogeny and taxonomy. monstermitch is the gentleman you need to speak with about this (and i need to as well, apparently)
check out the post close to this one about genetic strains and cloning, in which theres some information regarding this, and about the different strains being more like different 'races' rather than 'strains', but i digress.
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xaxphaanes
Mycologist



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Re: Mushroom Families [Re: dysphoria]
#7545272 - 10/21/07 11:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah that is total bs he is just trying to make a quick buck by passing misinformation.
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dysphoria
lost soul


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Re: Mushroom Families [Re: dysphoria]
#7545277 - 10/21/07 11:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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in essence, i believe it goes like this
strain(p. cubensis) -> substrain (cambodian, the region not the strain named 'cambodian') -> race (specific 'name', like nepal, burma, etc)
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monstermitch
Growing in Bags Doesn't Work



Registered: 02/10/06
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Loc: Arizona Bay
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7544463#Post7544463 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7544526#Post7544526
He's 100% full of it.
the above is not correct either.
please read my posts in the above two recent threads. you have NO IDEA what you are growing, sorry. and no man alive will probably be able to tell you what it really is. you'll just have to go with it.
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TheHauntingSoul
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Registered: 03/15/05
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you think the friendly shroomery community can help me ID it once i get fruits?
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monstermitch
Growing in Bags Doesn't Work



Registered: 02/10/06
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Loc: Arizona Bay
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you only have a few chances:
if it is indeed a cubensis, and:
if the spores are lavendar (redboy) if the spores are brown (pf redspore) if all fruits are true albinos (pf albino) if it looks like penises (penis envy) if the veil never tears away (malabar) if half of the fruits are penises and half are normal (PE6)
if none of these conditions happen for you, and you grow one of the other 70 or so types, you're on your own. theres dozen of so-called strains that are identical. so nobody could tell you for certain if you have one of them. only if you have one of the above.
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roquet
Expat tippler



Registered: 05/29/07
Posts: 1,195
Loc: Dubai بجدية عربي...
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Re: Mushroom Families [Re: dysphoria]
#7545511 - 10/22/07 01:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
dysphoria said: in essence, i believe it goes like this
strain(p. cubensis) -> substrain (cambodian, the region not the strain named 'cambodian') -> race (specific 'name', like nepal, burma, etc)
P. cubensis isn't a strain, it's a species. Golden Teacher is a cubensis strain. If you take "family" to mean "species", that guy wasn't talking *total* BS. But the species he mentioned doesn't exist.
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dysphoria
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Re: Mushroom Families [Re: roquet]
#7545552 - 10/22/07 01:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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thanks for clarification. need to get my taxonomy terms in the right order =)
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mycocurious
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Re: Mushroom Families [Re: dysphoria]
#7545768 - 10/22/07 05:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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um, yea...
grow it out, take plenty of pictures, post them to the hunting forums for identification - but don't mange any until then. For all you know the dude made a spore print off a ink-cap growing in his backyard.
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