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does lc work exactly like a spore syringe?
    #7544925 - 10/21/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

>>>OK b4 i get yelled at.... I did use the search and I'm just not completely satisfied with what I found.. so could someone tell me if there is any difference with what a lc does compared to what spore syringe does?

Thanks....:grin:


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: leanitus]
    #7544934 - 10/21/07 10:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

LC is just a general term used for any liquid culture.

a LC could be made from multispore solution (a spore syringe) and be exactly like the syringe, with hundreds of substrains competing for dominance.

or an LC could be made from a clone (agar, direct tissue, etc) and thus be a LC of a clone, and thus be only one or two dominant substrains. in which case it would be nothing like a spore syringe.

so it really just matters how you make your LC.

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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: leanitus]
    #7544947 - 10/21/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

With multispore inoculation's you have to wait for the spores to germinate and that means waiting out the germination period of the spores and getting what it gives you (weak/strong/poor/good) growth...

With Liquid cultures you can use a peice of mushroom tissue to clone your largest fruits and prolific fruiting mycelium, or do agar isolation and transfer it to a LC to produce enough to inoculate 100000000million jars.... Did i mention that it begins colonizing almost immiedatly after innoculating your jars leading to faster growth and lesson'ing your chance of contamination.

They are easily contaminated but if you properly prepare your enviorment your going to find LC's alot more handy then multispore innoculations. My two cents :smile:


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: leanitus]
    #7544950 - 10/21/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well first off you must of not used the search fuction verry well,

an lc is way better then a spore syringe because the spores have to germinate and lc's dont, plus there are so many tiny little peices of mycelium in a lc that there are tons of inoculation points, way more then in a spore syringe, so basicly do an lc, you can make more and more and never have to buy spore syringe after spore syringe like you would if you didint make an lc,


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: dysphoria]
    #7544969 - 10/21/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

OK i get that part of it.

so one reason to use it is to single out a strain.

Can i use it to knock up wbs?

or does it just speed up growth?


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: leanitus]
    #7544975 - 10/21/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

OK got it thanks slow typer


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: leanitus]
    #7544981 - 10/21/07 10:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

you can use it to inoculate whatever you want, mycelium is mycelium and will grow wherever you place it (within growing parameters).

and yes, it pretty much just speeds up growth, by shaving germination time from your overall time frame.

which, imo, is marginally helpful at best.


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: dysphoria]
    #7544998 - 10/21/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

A friend told me he can colonize a litre of grains in six to seven days with LC....Lets see that kind of preformance from a spore syringe.


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7545009 - 10/21/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

and the LC took how long to colonize prior to inoculation of a liter of grain?

im sorry, but saying an LC outperforms a spore syringe is like saying a 5 year old outperforms a 1 year old.

of fucking course it does, its 4 years older.


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7545015 - 10/21/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

will 2ml from a syringe be as effective as 2ml from a lc?


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: leanitus]
    #7545057 - 10/21/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The lc is the more effective inoculation method by far.


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7545094 - 10/21/07 11:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

all i can say is i have in the past noc'ed up jars with LC and jars with spores in the same day and the one with spores actually beat the LC and its not like it was my first grow some strains go faster then others... i have an isolate LC of PE and it colonizes like a mofo but like i said ive had spores keep up with it


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: Sedonacorona12]
    #7545149 - 10/21/07 11:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well also though there are other factors too like did you refigerate your LC and your spore syringes was one older then the other? How much did you use in comparison of ccs for inoculation of each jars? 99 times out of a hundred I usually dowse my jars with LC because it is easily made and can be made in very large qty's. But even saying though sometimes I had jars from spore syringes take a week to a week and half just to germinate where as the LC was fully colonized in two weeks. Same strain actually LC came from same spore syringe.


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: croptop30]
    #7545401 - 10/22/07 12:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the point is, there are too many factors to consider in which is better, it's not a matter of better or worse, they're just different.

for LC's i recommend Karo for a nub or the new Turbinado LC (haven't tried it yet)

it really comes down to, which is faster and more efficient
and the answer is definitely that the LC is more efficient because you can turn a syringe of LC into an unlimited amount of LC sparing genetic degradation, whereas you definitely can't directly turn a spore syringe into more fresh spore syringes


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: anarchOi]
    #7545419 - 10/22/07 12:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

But you *can* turn a spore syringe into many LC syringes!

I'm thinking of going the LC route when I get around to doing my first grow - I'm just waiting on my spore print in the mail and then I'm set.

One question though: Can I just scrape some spores from the print into a jar of properly prepared liquid susbstrate [ie honey water, malt water, etc]? Sounds doable to me, but I have zilch experience.


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Re: does lc work exactly like a spore syringe? [Re: boingkster]
    #7545785 - 10/22/07 05:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I made an lc once just to see if i could, it took about a week (i used a shot glass) and when i tested it on a pf tek, it colinised in about a week, I only inoced from 1 point - the middle of the substrate.

Just havnt got round to doing it properly.

AFter that first jar, i wish i had taken a full syringe and done a whole batch, but i chucked it out as i thought it was contamed after having to open it up to get the syringe to the mycelium.

LC is definatly a good route to go, even from spores, from a tiny amount of spore solution u could end up with enough lc for many many syringes. So you could extend a 10ml that would do about 10 jars, to doing hundreds of jars. So thats one lc use.

Or say you have a very intersting fruit, u could take a tissue sample and grow that out in an lc, again making many many syringes, that go on to make hundreds of jars, plus u will likly have just 1 strain, leading to possibly better fruiting or colinisating depending on what characteristings that particular shroom has.

Taking that furhter, u can grow out either spores or a tissue sample on agar, then start isolating mycelium to another petri dishes till u have what u want, then transfer that to an lc and so on.

In my opinion LC's are easy, if your clean and efficient with your procedures then u should get good results. Dont let a contam here and there let you down, we all get contams sometimes


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