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OfflineWalrus_Infested
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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: resptodd]
    #7547166 - 10/22/07 04:32 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Rid the pine needles. the acidity will kill. Just take a look underneath a pine tree, see anything living?




Ever hunted Psilocybe Weilii? I find those bitches under pine trees and pine needles all day long.


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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: resptodd]
    #7547189 - 10/22/07 04:37 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Rid the pine needles. the acidity will kill. Just take a look underneath a pine tree, see anything living?




Like I said in my earlier post, there is a lot of misinformation regarding the composting of pine needles and oak leaves and their acidity. The pine needles will be just fine in your compost and won't effect the acidity one bit, I promise.

Resptodd, while the area under your pine tree might be on the slightly acidic side if you tested it, it would not be from the pine needles, it would be because the soil was naturally acidic there to begin with... Acidification does not translate readily from decomposing matter to the soil. Whatever organisms that decompose the pine needles - and they do decompose very++ slowly - will neutralize the pH as it digests them.

The main reason grass does not grow under evergreens is because they produce too much shade and the needles encourage rapid soil compaction of the underneath it's branches - which prevents all but the most hardiest of shade-tolerant grasses from growing.


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Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: Walrus_Infested]
    #7547214 - 10/22/07 04:45 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Just remember, quintessentially it's the same nasty drip you smell off the back of a garbage truck... not to be mistaken for compost_tea which is something wholly different altogether.




Ok I'm glad you told me this, because I thought that WAS the compost tea. Whats the differences here? Can I super-dilute the shit thats coming out now and water plants with it?




This link will answer all your questions...
Compost Tea Basics <-- a great forum for composting, by the way...

But ultimately I would consider that leachate to be rather bio-hazardous considering it's the drainage of a fresh manure. Ultimately, it's sewage...


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figgusfiddus said:
Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: mycocurious]
    #7547285 - 10/22/07 05:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Mycocurious...You are officially a kickass mofo. Thanks for all your help.

Check this out i just found this and I was thinking about getting one of these, it looks like a sweet deal on a good product.


http://www.alwaysbrilliant.com/aa/aspx-products/1-1192/2-52260/SC-FROOGLE/bb/Compost%20Aerator.htm


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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: Walrus_Infested]
    #7548443 - 10/22/07 09:16 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

You should add some human feces to make your concoction even more diverse. But remember it helps to get a little stool on your thumb!


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    #7548600 - 10/22/07 09:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7549327 - 10/23/07 12:08 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I would guess that making worm castings is a different process because an active compost pile can heat up to 150 degrees sometimes. I bet worms wouldnt take to kindly to that.


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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: Walrus_Infested]
    #7549393 - 10/23/07 12:25 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Usually its only the core of the compost that reaches those temps, and thats where thermophilic bacteria break it down, which is the reason you need to turn the compost often.

IMO I think worms would be fine, coz they will stay in areas that arent too hot, and will produce little babies quickly when you start clawing and moving the pile often.


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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: gmuralid]
    #7549450 - 10/23/07 12:41 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: MFGFA37]
    #7549509 - 10/23/07 01:05 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

active composting (decomposition through thermophilic bacteria) and vermicomposting (decomposition through worms) are two different things and can't be mixed - although it's not uncommon to find a finished, aged compost pile become infested with worms when it's no longer heating up.


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figgusfiddus said:
Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: resptodd]
    #7549559 - 10/23/07 01:19 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Rid the pine needles. the acidity will kill. Just take a look underneath a pine tree, see anything living?







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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: Glacier Creek]
    #7550134 - 10/23/07 09:45 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

lots of coniferous fungi out there, nice pic

cedar can be confused with pine, i guess...

u don't find much growing under cedars.


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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: jeetered]
    #7550145 - 10/23/07 09:48 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: Slimz]
    #7550693 - 10/23/07 02:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

walrus compost meaning killing a walrus and filling it with composting materials? ha this is my next test


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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: Walrus_Infested]
    #7550795 - 10/23/07 03:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hey, when that things done decomposing, dig a hole down the middle of it, and fill it with colonized wbs. When its all colonized, take the lid off, and flip it upside down, carefully pull the trashcan upwards. It will be the worlds biggest shroom cake:grin:

Ofcourse you would have to put it in a camping tent with a few coolmists to get it to fruit:thumbup:

Could you imagine a pic with you standing next to a cake that big with shrooms just covering it:eek:


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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: mycocurious]
    #7550861 - 10/23/07 03:19 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

My bad, I apologize for the misinfo. I am in a learning period myself and was simply relaying information I had picked up during this period. I use composted pine needles in my blueberry plot because of their acidity. I've not had a single mushroom of any sort grow through this compost, although mushrooms abound in my neutral compost heap.


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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: milkman]
    #7553063 - 10/24/07 12:12 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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walrus compost meaning killing a walrus and filling it with composting materials? ha this is my next test




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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: Walrus_Infested]
    #7553075 - 10/24/07 12:15 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

advice. just do the compost in a pile on the ground. fck containers, fuck bins!


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Re: The Walrus Compost Tek [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7553744 - 10/24/07 07:28 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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advice. just do the compost in a pile on the ground. fck containers, fuck bins!




+1 - provided you have the means to do so. There are quite a few urban composters out there that don't have the land or otherwise have restrictions that prohibit free-piles.

LOL, but if you're going to use a container, make it a fun one. Take a look at the product offered by www.rolypig.com if you want to see what has to be the most adorable composter on the planet, heh.


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- How Myco-Curious Prepares Coir & Compost Substrates
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figgusfiddus said:
Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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