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ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future.
    #7543971 - 10/21/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, so I don't know if these videos have been posted here before, I'm sure they have.. but whatever.

Ok so, I am now convinced that aliens have been visiting earth for thousands of years, and they continue to do so.. and soon enough they will present themselves to us when the time is right, as they have done before in the past. Every religion talks about events which took place that changed the world in drastic ways. They all talk about beings coming from the sky.. "gods", beings that were much more powerful than we.

Most people think the idea of aliens is probable, but the fact that they have developed the technology to travel thousands of lightyears to reach us is impossible. Come on now... use your heads!

Any enlightened person will tell you that the meaning of life is to evolve of itself.. to better itself, to know more, to be more. We are ever evolving.. all life forms. Now if all that exists and evolves is a result of universal laws, and we bear witness to life on earth, we can say life on earth is a result of the universal laws. LIFE, in that case, would be the universel rule, and would be abundant throughout the universe so long as there were conditions appropriate for life to manifest itself, in all different shapes and forms. Think about all the different life forms on earth alone.. in all temperates.. holy shit.. thats alot of life! Life is the rule, and not the exception on earth.

So, if you have life forms existing in all shapes and forms throughout the universe, and the drive of their existance is to always evolve and be more, you can bet you have beings that are more spiritually enlightened, and vey likely more technologicaly advanced than we could ever imagine. They have existed for longer, and have come to unlock more secrets of the universe we can only imagine in our dreams.

So now, you have these extra-terrestrials that look at humans as filthy animals (although with the mental potential to be really great.. which I also believe lies within all life forms) that do nothing but destroy themselves, their fellow neighbor life forms and their host planet, much like a virus or bacteria. They look at us and shake their heads.. when will they learn? When will they open their minds to the vastness of the universe, and the unlimited possibilies presented within it?

We used to think the world was flat and that we were the centre of the universe. We didnt know the micro world existed until we developed the technology to acknoledge it! So now, you have the external world to look at, and realize, that we used to think we were alone, and it turns out that we are anything but! And that we still have a long ways to go spiritualy before we can begin to accept that, you are not the centre of the universe. It would only make sense that "star wars" (i'm hopig there are no inter-gallactic wars.. but who knows?) was closer to the true reality that exists, than the lie of a bubble we seem to be living in these days. Most people are just so convinced of their insignificance that they fall so deep into their own shit, that to believe that there is so much more out there.. so much more bizarre stuff going on... that they would suffer mental breakdowns and begin to throw themselves off buildings. The majority of the human race is NOT prepared for the truth.. Religious freaks, I hate to say, were probably right all along, and will accept whatever odds things happen with open arms!

These videos presented before you are quite convincing.. proving that UFOS and ETs do exists.. and that the bigger picture WILL unravel itself.. and for god sakes.. I hope it does soon!

If you have the time, check them out! They are great!


http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5980990221766439646

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5305085298884471236&q=ufo&total=58837&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7544822 - 10/21/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

that first video you linked is probably the best collaboration of footage and testimony i've seen yet.  highly recommended. :thumbup:


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: starseed]
    #7544855 - 10/21/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The hard line believers could possibly try and kill anything which upsets there view on reality because they rely on it so much and it would scare them, fight or flight style thing. Imagine if you had the ability to move things with your mind and you went into the middle of a shopping center and made a table go flying above your head, how would the people in the shopping center react? I think it would be a mass, violent panic. Possibly directed at you. So if they are here, for our own good and their own good they could be very reluctant about exposing themselves.


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: DimensionX]
    #7544900 - 10/21/07 10:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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The hard line believers could possibly try and kill anything which upsets there view on reality because they rely on it so much and it would scare them, fight or flight style thing. Imagine if you had the ability to move things with your mind and you went into the middle of a shopping center and made a table go flying above your head, how would the people in the shopping center react? I think it would be a mass, violent panic. Possibly directed at you. So if they are here, for our own good and their own good they could be very reluctant about exposing themselves.




yea.. it would shake their world too much, and in fear they would do something stupid, instead of taking a deep breathe and putting their ego aside.

Many people that have experienced alien abduction = nervous breakdown.


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7544915 - 10/21/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I believe all humans have the mental capacity to know that UFOs exist and be comfortable with the idea/knowledge. In that case we, the governments, nor the aliens would have anything to worry about. All we need to do is promote spiritual growth and expansion of our awareness.


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7545121 - 10/21/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the strangeness of all this lies somewhere within the enormous implications that we, as the currently dominating species on this planet, could simply not overlook following the moment that contact occurs.

home, school, work, friends, family, religion, pop-culture, all our aspects of life would suddenly be reduced to the microscopic realm. what we may have previously taken dead seriously, now takes on a meager form of insignificance in the face of the massive reality-check from another world.

fear will become as widespread as love.
panic will break out in the streets, just as human relationships will flower.
both ends of the spectrum, all colors of emotion spilled simultaneously onto the same canvas, it will sure be messy, that is no doubt.

but what's there to do, what can one even practically do in this bizarre kind of situation?

not much i think, as the underlying strangeness arises precisely out of the sudden loss of control.

the event is no longer in our hands, it is literally beyond us.

there are new players on the block and it would be their turn to roll the dice.

the past no longer matters much, but our role in the universe and especially our future, all would, at least in the beginning, depend entirely on an extra-terrestrial decision.

acceptance in this case, i believe, goes a long way.


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7545358 - 10/22/07 12:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with what you're saying, but the players aren't new, they've been here running the show all along.

Disclosure is coming soon, unfortunately it still won't be the Truth...


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Middleman]
    #7545390 - 10/22/07 12:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

to many people it would be a new thing, but yes i believe you are right, it certainly wouldn't be headline news to those who have thoroughly studied history on this planet.

can you elaborate more on what you mean by "it still won't be the truth?"


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7546025 - 10/22/07 08:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah,
seems ridiculous to me when people claim we cannot pass the speed of light.
They are saying that assuming that nothing new can be learned. As if its the ultimate theory and nothing will ever surpass it!

Not to mention that theres many other possibilities for space travel, such as planet hopping (setting up bases), using genetics to extend the life of a being, breeding on ship etc

Theres definitely something weird going on up there and I don't think secret military technology is accountable for the range of bizarre experiences people have.


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7546034 - 10/22/07 08:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

One thing that really blew my mind was seeing the amount of video NASA has that is just not generally known about.

Check out the 'space worm' I can't remember off the top of my head which NASA mission it was on but I have the video somewhere I will find it and upload it later.


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Ego Death]
    #7546259 - 10/22/07 10:19 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i believe just about anything as being possible today...in my earlier life i was taught to disregard anything without hard proof...

but proof is nothing, its just a way to mold facts to really exemplify your argument for being perfectly sound

some people even theorized that all mushroom/fungis were placed here from outer space as the spores are strong enough to survive outerspace and if you go far back enough in the geological/fossil records you cant find spores/mushrooms anywhere...thats some food for thought


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: fake estate]
    #7546711 - 10/22/07 12:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Humans are such a strange species capable of creating beautiful dreams and terrifying nightmares.

There could even be an inter-gallactic UN.. that looks at Earth and thinks "how do we help these guys? what can we do?"

Maybe sending the magic fungus to earth was one of their bids to save us.. and we once again have completely proved how fuckin useless we are. We have the potential yet we throw it out the window and force ourselves to settle for the most mundane things in the universe, while we continue to suck the life out of everything we touch.

Well, the time is coming when they are just going to come when they can no longer sit and watch and will have to once again do what they can to save us. I can't fuckin wait!


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: fake estate]
    #7546725 - 10/22/07 12:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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i believe just about anything as being possible today...in my earlier life i was taught to disregard anything without hard proof...

but proof is nothing, its just a way to mold facts to really exemplify your argument for being perfectly sound

some people even theorized that all mushroom/fungis were placed here from outer space as the spores are strong enough to survive outerspace and if you go far back enough in the geological/fossil records you cant find spores/mushrooms anywhere...thats some food for thought




I agree. "proof" means nothing these days.


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7547187 - 10/22/07 02:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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fear will become as widespread as love.
panic will break out in the streets, just as human relationships will flower.
both ends of the spectrum, all colors of emotion spilled simultaneously onto the same canvas, it will sure be messy, that is no doubt.






You bring up a ton of good perspectives, nice post. Perhaps mass chaos is the reason any possible extra-terrestrials out there has yet to make their appearance?



Also, I liked that 2nd video a lot, but there were a few things in it that weren't explained well, and some of it was a little skeptical as well. However, I don't let that discourage me from the interesting things in the video that made me think.


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Kinematics]
    #7547306 - 10/22/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think if there are beings, intellegent enough to travel the vast distances of space, visiting earth then it would be like us trying to communicate with a monkey!

You can try and tell it its gonna die all you want but all it will do is sit there eating bananas and picking its ass.

I think its more likely that we are an intergalactic point of interest. For species that have mastered space travel it must be interesting to come and study the zoo for a while...


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Ego Death]
    #7547372 - 10/22/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I think its more likely that we are an intergalactic point of interest.  For species that have mastered space travel it must be interesting to come and study the zoo for a while...




That is how I feel about it. :lol:


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Kinematics]
    #7547831 - 10/22/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Perhaps mass chaos is the reason any possible extra-terrestrials out there has yet to make their appearance?




This is the assumption. I tend to believe that we are not the first intelligent species that they would be involved with.

At this point I cannot imagine what they'd be waiting for, or how they would know the right time to make an appearance, but if I ever get to experience open contact, it will be clear to me that they know exactly what they are doing.

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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7552338 - 10/23/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Many people that have experienced alien abduction = nervous breakdown.





More likely the other way around...


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    #7552354 - 10/23/07 07:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Perhaps mass chaos is the reason any possible extra-terrestrials out there has yet to make their appearance?





Perhaps non-existence is the reason any possible extra-terrestrials out there has yet to make their appearance.


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7552599 - 10/23/07 08:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Perhaps mass chaos is the reason any possible extra-terrestrials out there has yet to make their appearance?





Perhaps non-existence is the reason any possible extra-terrestrials out there has yet to make their appearance.




"non-existance" is the most illogical conclusion any person could make. They have made appearances, they have left signs, people have experienced this. Please watch the videos.


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7552605 - 10/23/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Many people that have experienced alien abduction = nervous breakdown.





More likely the other way around...




It's also common to meet people who claim to have been abducted, yet you could not pick them out of a crowd. Their behavior is not what one might expect from somebody who is said to have had an intense experience of extra-terrestrial contact. If anything is suspicious then I think it is the normality of mannerism.

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Perhaps non-existence is the reason any possible extra-terrestrials out there has yet to make their appearance.




Ignorance is fair enough as long as possibilities are not ignored IMO.


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    #7553317 - 10/23/07 11:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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to many people it would be a new thing, but yes i believe you are right, it certainly wouldn't be headline news to those who have thoroughly studied history on this planet.

can you elaborate more on what you mean by "it still won't be the truth?"




Just as all elections, revolutions, wars, and tragedies in western (Egypto-Roman / British) civilization have been carefully orchestrated and staged, so it will be with the coming "Invasion" and "Disclosure".

The Rosicrucians have been writing about the "staged invasion at the end of our Era" for hundreds of years...


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7553564 - 10/24/07 01:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Perhaps mass chaos is the reason any possible extra-terrestrials out there has yet to make their appearance?





Perhaps non-existence is the reason any possible extra-terrestrials out there has yet to make their appearance.




So what you're trying to say is, nothing exists until they are proven.


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Middleman]
    #7554301 - 10/24/07 09:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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to many people it would be a new thing, but yes i believe you are right, it certainly wouldn't be headline news to those who have thoroughly studied history on this planet.

can you elaborate more on what you mean by "it still won't be the truth?"




Just as all elections, revolutions, wars, and tragedies in western (Egypto-Roman / British) civilization have been carefully orchestrated and staged, so it will be with the coming "Invasion" and "Disclosure".

The Rosicrucians have been writing about the "staged invasion at the end of our Era" for hundreds of years...




That would explain the united states arming space.. they obviously know something we don't. I bet the beginnings of Rosicrucians stemmed from a visit from beings from outer space that came to "warn" people that they need to begin to enlighten humanity if they are ever to have a bid at becoming members of the bigger universal picture.
A bigger picture above all the illusions we have created and literally preoccupy our entire lives satisfying.. just to learn that all those games were merely illusions, and had absolutely NOTHING to do with the truths, wonders, and goals we are all meant to aim towards in the grand scheme of things.

There is knowledge that has been passed down for thousands of years leading up to a day and time that will arise in our lifetime. How fukin lucky is that!


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7569683 - 10/28/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You guys fail to observe the other possibility. That we are a hopeless race because we let what feels good influence everything we do.

In this case, they may deem us un-worthy or such and such, and in that case... extermination.


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Re: ETs.The Universe. Our Past. Our Future. [Re: cube talk]
    #7570979 - 10/28/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

We are not a lowly race, we have been trained and conditioned to give our power over to Nazi types who are bent on keeping us stupid, separating us from each other, so that they can follow there own callus and selfish agenda's. Give a human education and a belief in itself, encourage awareness instead of conformity, and we become what we have the right and responsibility to be, a species aware of itself and its symbiotic relationship with all life. Our future hangs in the balance right now, and its up to us to see the truth.


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