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TripleTree3
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Bizarre low dose experience
#7543571 - 10/21/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Could anybody give any insight as to why 1.7 on one occasion and 1.0 on another sent afoaf farther than he had ever been?
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: TripleTree3]
#7543581 - 10/21/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not all mushrooms are created equal.
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: Ness1]
#7543607 - 10/21/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Set and Setting possibly?
I know if im super comfortable and really happy any dose can get me where i want to go.
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TripleTree3
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: ImaWonderwall]
#7543632 - 10/21/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I knew the set and setting had a ton to do with it but it was the two most intense trips this far. Maybe it was because I wasn't expecting that much but it completely caught me off guard. I waited about 10 days tried 1.0 and had almost the exact same effects. Extremely vivid OEV's, ego loss, and a lot of stuff I haven't even figured out yet. I had just never heard of such a low dose doing so much.
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Kinematics
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: TripleTree3]
#7543634 - 10/21/07 05:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe a couple aborts found their way into your dose.
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: TripleTree3]
#7543669 - 10/21/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol if you are gonna say it happened to afoaf, you might as well carry it on the whole way through jk
My advice is: Be happy you had such a good trip!
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TripleTree3
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: Kinematics]
#7543675 - 10/21/07 05:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the reminder. I meant to mention that on the first dose(1.7) there were enough aborts to account for the drastic increase in potency. Having taken that into account on the second dose(1.0) I made sure to get no aborts just normal cracker dry mushies.
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TripleTree3
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: boxcarguy07]
#7543702 - 10/21/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ha, yeah I kinda forgot but I was just a little concerned about how to gauge this for friends and such
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: TripleTree3]
#7543743 - 10/21/07 05:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've had some cubensis that less than 1 (.8) gram would give me (limited)open eye visuals and a strong head trip. I contacted entities on a half eight of those.
Some are just stronger than others.
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TripleTree3
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: Divided_Sky]
#7545617 - 10/22/07 02:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds good. I thought I might have been losing it for a while. Thanks for all the responses
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: TripleTree3]
#7545664 - 10/22/07 03:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, I have way more intense experiences eating 1.5g now than I used to eating 4. It seems like once you've had a 7g experience, it's easier to go back to that place with a lower dose later.
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: TripleTree3]
#7546055 - 10/22/07 08:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, I have way more intense experiences eating 1.5g now than I used to eating 4. It seems like once you've had a 7g experience, it's easier to go back to that place with a lower dose later.
What surprises me is how much mushrooms everybody is using.
At some times you are more susceptible to the effects of mushrooms then on other times.
We in Holland have a saying that says: "He who doesn't honor the small, isn't worth the great."
Low doses of mushrooms can have very profound effects, if one is open to them. But most times people don't really take small doses and if they do, they enter it with a "must be weaksauce" attitude.
One gram of cubies is half the amount of two grams of cubies, but it is over a trillion times more than zero grams of cubies. When you take mushrooms in an active amount, there is 4-HO-DMT coursing through your veins, and this has an escalating effect on your mind.
I used to be a multigram tripper back in the day. I have learned to tune in however, and have become quite sensitive to the mushroom's effects.
To me, 0.125-1.5gr of cubies constitutes a trip. 0.25 gr always is quite interesting or at least very worth my while. 1 gram always blows my mind, and sometimes 0.5gr does as well. By learning to tune in, I have become 2-4x as sensitive as the average person. And I'm huge, I weigh 325 lbs so it isn't an issue of me being really small.
Some time ago 0.4 grams of Cyans completely rocked my world. I couldn't keep my eyes open, and behind closed eyelids I soared through dimensions. I had trouble breathing, because I had forgotten how to. There I was, couchfried, soaring through dimensions, breathing through the intensity of it all. 0.4 grams.
Sometimes you are more susceptible and the mushroom will take you far, far away. You can train this by most of the time taking modest doses. Try tripping on 1-1.75 grams for a while. If you're tuned in, try 0.75-1.5gr. Once you got that down, take it to 0.5-1.25 grams.
You can overbomb yourself so you need more, or you can train yourself so you need less. I suggest the latter.
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: Asante]
#7546155 - 10/22/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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that alone was fantablous and i went around the woods mushroom picking with a friend and having a good talk, then later had a 2 hour talk. it was a good time i triped way harded then i would of expected
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: Asante]
#7546172 - 10/22/07 09:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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Yeah, I have way more intense experiences eating 1.5g now than I used to eating 4. It seems like once you've had a 7g experience, it's easier to go back to that place with a lower dose later.
What surprises me is how much mushrooms everybody is using.
At some times you are more susceptible to the effects of mushrooms then on other times.
We in Holland have a saying that says: "He who doesn't honor the small, isn't worth the great."
Low doses of mushrooms can have very profound effects, if one is open to them. But most times people don't really take small doses and if they do, they enter it with a "must be weaksauce" attitude.
One gram of cubies is half the amount of two grams of cubies, but it is over a trillion times more than zero grams of cubies. When you take mushrooms in an active amount, there is 4-HO-DMT coursing through your veins, and this has an escalating effect on your mind.
I used to be a multigram tripper back in the day. I have learned to tune in however, and have become quite sensitive to the mushroom's effects.
To me, 0.125-1.5gr of cubies constitutes a trip. 0.25 gr always is quite interesting or at least very worth my while. 1 gram always blows my mind, and sometimes 0.5gr does as well. By learning to tune in, I have become 2-4x as sensitive as the average person. And I'm huge, I weigh 325 lbs so it isn't an issue of me being really small.
Some time ago 0.4 grams of Cyans completely rocked my world. I couldn't keep my eyes open, and behind closed eyelids I soared through dimensions. I had trouble breathing, because I had forgotten how to. There I was, couchfried, soaring through dimensions, breathing through the intensity of it all. 0.4 grams.
Sometimes you are more susceptible and the mushroom will take you far, far away. You can train this by most of the time taking modest doses. Try tripping on 1-1.75 grams for a while. If you're tuned in, try 0.75-1.5gr. Once you got that down, take it to 0.5-1.25 grams.
You can overbomb yourself so you need more, or you can train yourself so you need less. I suggest the latter.
Wiccian you are now and will always be a shroomery guru to me.
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: Asante]
#7546216 - 10/22/07 10:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am going to try a small dose next time and work on "tuning in" like you describe. Any tips?
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thedudenj
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: 2end4]
#7546248 - 10/22/07 10:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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2end4 said:
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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Yeah, I have way more intense experiences eating 1.5g now than I used to eating 4. It seems like once you've had a 7g experience, it's easier to go back to that place with a lower dose later.
What surprises me is how much mushrooms everybody is using.
At some times you are more susceptible to the effects of mushrooms then on other times.
We in Holland have a saying that says: "He who doesn't honor the small, isn't worth the great."
Low doses of mushrooms can have very profound effects, if one is open to them. But most times people don't really take small doses and if they do, they enter it with a "must be weaksauce" attitude.
One gram of cubies is half the amount of two grams of cubies, but it is over a trillion times more than zero grams of cubies. When you take mushrooms in an active amount, there is 4-HO-DMT coursing through your veins, and this has an escalating effect on your mind.
I used to be a multigram tripper back in the day. I have learned to tune in however, and have become quite sensitive to the mushroom's effects.
To me, 0.125-1.5gr of cubies constitutes a trip. 0.25 gr always is quite interesting or at least very worth my while. 1 gram always blows my mind, and sometimes 0.5gr does as well. By learning to tune in, I have become 2-4x as sensitive as the average person. And I'm huge, I weigh 325 lbs so it isn't an issue of me being really small.
Some time ago 0.4 grams of Cyans completely rocked my world. I couldn't keep my eyes open, and behind closed eyelids I soared through dimensions. I had trouble breathing, because I had forgotten how to. There I was, couchfried, soaring through dimensions, breathing through the intensity of it all. 0.4 grams.
Sometimes you are more susceptible and the mushroom will take you far, far away. You can train this by most of the time taking modest doses. Try tripping on 1-1.75 grams for a while. If you're tuned in, try 0.75-1.5gr. Once you got that down, take it to 0.5-1.25 grams.
You can overbomb yourself so you need more, or you can train yourself so you need less. I suggest the latter.
Wiccian you are now and will always be a shroomery guru to me.
tee hee you are wise indeed. Hoffman also talked much about low doses too. i say specially with amanita. theres the thing i want to point once you have taken enought things you can go anywhere you want off of any dose, dose just determines the strain on the body.if i take 2 E or one i trip really really hard if i want to i can tripp harded then 4 doses of hit str blotter,60g of P torch in tar extract, and 2 grams of mushrooms.
Its all about the vibes. and dont worry when people take monster doses and dront really get any further its not a waste nothing is lost some one with a lower dose near by or far by is eating his excess vibes
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: thedudenj]
#7546282 - 10/22/07 10:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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a friend of mine ate about 20 grams of fresh amazon cubensis for his first time, he had minor body load but nothing more the second time he ate 1.6 grams of thai cubensis dry, didn't feel anything for the first hour, but then experienced complete ego loss, couldn't form sentences anymore, he lay on his bed and wheels ran over him, tearing him into pieces after that he was fine again, happy to be alive, talked to his guinea pig, realizing, that he is a good friend so, you see that the dose has little to nothing to say about the trip
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: TripleTree3]
#7546332 - 10/22/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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TripleTree3 said: Could anybody give any insight as to why 1.7 on one occasion and 1.0 on another sent afoaf farther than he had ever been?
They are probably "magic mushrooms" ...
In all seriousness.... There are more factors than potencey/setting/mindstated/etc when it comes to the threshold of effects.
There are many things we just dont know of understand.
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thedudenj
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: Fraggin]
#7546852 - 10/22/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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its all about the vibes
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TripleTree3
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Re: Bizarre low dose experience [Re: thedudenj]
#7547282 - 10/22/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks again for the responses, this has been really helpful.
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