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OfflineSpanki
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The Secret
    #7542777 - 10/21/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The Secret, a book/dvd that preaches the "Laws Of Attraction". Does this shit piss anyone else off? This big "philosophical phenomenon" just seems like a big pseudo philosophical jizzrag. And although it is inspired by quantum physics, its seems to turn its back on it when it is convenient. It is such a flawed philosophy, and yet it is the most popular, talked about (in the mainstream media) philosophy around today. Just wondering if anyone else feels the same way. If not, please explain to me why this is such a big deal, because to me, it just seems like fast food philosophy.


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Re: The Secret [Re: Spanki]
    #7542801 - 10/21/07 01:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It is such a flawed philosophy, and yet it is the most popular, talked about (in the mainstream media) philosophy around today.

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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The Secret [Re: Icelander]
    #7542855 - 10/21/07 01:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't read the book. and I've only seen the movie once.

but.. :shrug:
what do you want to believe in?
I certainly resonate with several of the points they pointed out.
the concepts are nothing new, really
The Secret does seem very much like a fad
however, if it helps people, i see no problems with it
and it does help people
whether it's them helping themselves, or the Universe, the ideas that it teaches can bring you out of a hole and into the life of your choosing

I can't wait until Oprah tells us which philosophy to check out next!!
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don't let it bother you so much, my friend


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Re: The Secret [Re: dirtworshipper]
    #7542971 - 10/21/07 02:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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if it helps people, i see no problems with it
and it does help people
whether it's them helping themselves, or the Universe, the ideas that it teaches can bring you out of a hole and into the life of your choosing





I think it is hurting them. Hurting them in the same way that religion hurts many people. And by this I mean it gives them a quick solution, and an illusion of "enlightenment". When you talk about altering sub atomic particles through observation, there is no order. There is no altering the universe by CHOICE. It is all chaotic, and beyond human comprehension. For a human mind to hope that they could somehow DECIDE how they change the universe is almost laughable. The "power of alteration" is as mysterious and peculiar as consciousness itself. The alteration happens on a level lower than subconscious or unconscious, yet beyond consciousness altogether. There is so much to be observed and learned in this phenomenon and what "The Law of Attraction" says is "NOPE, all done here. We know now. Go out and make your life beautiful!" Its bullshit, and its counterproductive.


Edited by Spanki (10/21/07 02:10 PM)


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Re: The Secret [Re: Spanki]
    #7545528 - 10/22/07 01:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i saw the secret as the ultimate guide to positive thinking.
and i think that would benefit many people a great deal.


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Re: The Secret [Re: filthydee]
    #7545531 - 10/22/07 01:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

its just an idea, and alot of people would benifit from it


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Re: The Secret [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7545591 - 10/22/07 01:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I tend to agree with spanki, it seems to trivialize a cool concept like taking control of your own reality or even mind over matter, and turn it into day dreaming about mansions or getting a $500 check in the mail. And i guess the fact that it seems to accompanied by a massive marketing plan dosent help my attitude towards it.


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Re: The Secret [Re: Spanki]
    #7545667 - 10/22/07 03:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

people are idiots

for example. i am an idiot


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Re: The Secret [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #7546270 - 10/22/07 10:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

and to the law of attraction there is law of repulsion. aka push and pull aka yin and yang aka postive and negitive.


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