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bmy
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How do I let go? (My first bad trip)
#7541655 - 10/21/07 05:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I recently (two days ago) had my first trip on shrooms. I've previously done lsd twice (1 blotter each time, probably around 200ug). My previous trips have been kind of mild. Seen 3d patterns, bright lights, text i in the clouds, spiraling leafs on the trees and such. But all in all I've felt very much under control and not that far away from the normal world.
Anyhow. On a half full stomach (ate a lot at around 16:00 and dosed at 20) I dosed 1g of my first batch of shrooms. A shot glass of powder mixed with lemonade. After about 20 minutes I started feeling lightheaded, and after about 40-50 minutes I started getting visuals. Round corners and such, not very strong visuals though, not nearly as strong as I had had on lsd. So at about t+1 hour I dosed another 0.5g to knock it up a notch. I did this since I figured I was peeking (my friend who dosed 1.2g at the same time was peeking since a while). Well, obviously I wasn't peeking, and some 30 minutes later things started to happen. I could no longer see any sharp edges and it felt a little as if the whole world, including myself, was distorted by a sinus wave. Although unfamiliar, it was fun. We took a short straw outside and I felt as if I were walking around in a Sam & Max world. A lot of fun. However, when we came back inside, the whole room started to stretch and bend, and somehow I got a bit scared. I'm well read and I'm very aware that it is/was nothing to worry about. But I could not get those thoughts away. I don't even remember what the thoughts were. I had my first bad trip. I didn't feel totaly out of control, but those damn spirals of bad thoughts, I could not get away from them. The more I tried the more I got stuck in them. I'm happy I had my rock solid friend with me. However, what I figured is that a lot of the cause for my bad trip was that I'm a bit of a control freak. I like having control over things, but I really really would like to be able to enjoy NOT having control also. I believe that I'll will end up in more bad trips such as this if I can not let go. The problem is that I don't really know how to let go. I'm guessing that it's something I'll have to train me to do, maybe the hard way by tripping a lot? So todays questions would be - Give me your best hints on how to train yourself to let go. (Well, that wasn't really a question, but what the heck.)
I would also assume that the next time I dose to this level, the skewed world will be a bit more familiar and I won't be as scared. At least I had a lot of fun in the beginning, and I learned a lot from the bad parts.
(Yes, I'm aware it was a bit clumsy to dose a 0.5 extra at the time, but I don't regret it.)
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veda_sticks
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Re: How do I let go? (My first bad trip) [Re: bmy]
#7541668 - 10/21/07 05:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think that you trying to control your trip was what made it bad, the best thing to do is just to let it flow, just remember that the effects will wear off and you will be fine in a few hours.
I had the same kinda thing happen to me on my first trip where a a portion of just after the peak had some scary thoughts, but i didnt consider it a bad trip, it was mostly good.
I love the visuals of shrooms, they are very prominent, but it can be a bit daunting as someitmes it seems to go on for ever.
Remember its all just in your head, if you have some bad feelings or something before the trip, its possible that they will surface during.
Dont panick, let it flow.
You will feel better in a few days, my last trip turned kinda sour and the i was almost for throwing all my stuff out, thankfully i didnt have time when i got up as i had to go to work and had time to reflect.
I think u may be like me, where a low dosage can have huge effects, i took 18 grams (wet) first time, i ate half of it, and was tripping real hard, then i ate the rest a few hours later, and some scary stuff happend!!!
I definatly do not recomend tripping alot. once a month is plenty, and make sure you are in a nice and confortable situation.
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Re: How do I let go? (My first bad trip) [Re: bmy]
#7541672 - 10/21/07 06:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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seems to me that you're more suited to lsd than shrooms at the moment. but that doesnt mean you cant learn to love the mush. it took me a good 7-9 times with shrooms to 'get to grips' with them so to speak. not sure if theres any tips i can give, its quite a personal learning experience. on second thoughts a nice hit of nitrous acts like a bit of a reset button if im feeling uneasy when tripping.
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bmy
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Re: How do I let go? (My first bad trip) [Re: Littleman]
#7541689 - 10/21/07 06:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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veda_sticks: I agree that me trying to get control was what made it go bad. I really want to let it flow. The problem I have is that I'm not very good at letting go. Hence the question - "how do I let go?". I don't know if I would consider this a bad trip. I'm guessing it depends on your definition of bad. It was not fun during the bad part. But now afterwards I consider it a good experience. I felt better as soon as the trip ended actually. And I'll definitely trip again.
littleman: I'll try a lower dose of the shrooms next time. I'm guessing a higher dose of lsd would give me as of a distorted world as I got on the shrooms but in another way perhaps. I really like the mushroom effect actually, at least during the fun parts And they are as good as free now when I got my setup. lsd is a bit pricey for my budget.
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Re: How do I let go? (My first bad trip) [Re: bmy]
#7541702 - 10/21/07 06:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sometimes i think deciding that what your seeing and feeling is real can help, instead of thinking its hallucination which can cause your mind to fight to get back to reality. But also remembering that just because its real dosent mean you wont get back to nice solid ground in a few hours when its all over.
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Re: How do I let go? (My first bad trip) [Re: bmy]
#7541703 - 10/21/07 06:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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concentrate mind in center of greatest tension/pain & circulate healing and loosening, breathe through
repeat and sustain until...
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