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durban_poison
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: sturmer88]
#8359683 - 05/03/08 11:18 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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did they drop their leaves? if not just cut them off they will produce more later. only when the pereskiopsis drops its leaves do i let the offshoots grow to revive the stock. however if you have patience why not let them grow and graft more.
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durban_poison
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cpw1971]
#8359707 - 05/03/08 11:24 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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why would flat grafting suck? two slices attach and your done. i get 99-100% success. why go through all the extra work and time to let your seedlings get to that size to be grafted? then all the cutting. what is your success ratio on this style of grafting? maybe if you have lots of time and minimal amounts of grafts why not try it. for now i will stick with flat grafting. in fact im making 100 grafts in a few days when my extra pereskiopsis come in. i have already stripped mine to stumps. i guess i will do a grafting log to show my success ratio and ease of flatr grafting. would it take longer then a hour to do a 100 of those grafts? it only takes a hour for me.
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cpw1971
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: durban_poison]
#8359755 - 05/03/08 11:35 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah the impale method may take longer to do. but when they take they grow a lot faster than flat grafts. I am getting 100% success now too. I have lost a lot flat grafting. also I have 100+ I will be grafting soon so I will document it....
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durban_poison
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cpw1971]
#8359813 - 05/03/08 11:48 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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how about you and i start a thread. when will you be doing your grafts? i can wait when they come in. we will race. you might be right that yours grow faster considering how much vascular tissue is connecting. i say we do it with monthly updates you down? i have seen grafting compitions elsewhere its time we bring one to the shroomery.
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cpw1971
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cpw1971]
#8359854 - 05/04/08 12:00 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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hehe sounds like a plan  but yeah it is the amount of vascular tissue connecting that makes it grow fast. the pin method ensures the best connection also. I gotta regenerate some Pereskiopsis so it may be a few weeks before I am ready.
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durban_poison
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cpw1971]
#8359869 - 05/04/08 12:06 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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heres what i have going for grafting... KK919 T. bridgesii
 "los gentiles"
 kk 923 i think im not running back again to check T. macrogonus..
 Lumberjacks X T. pachnoi
 SS02 X T.pachnoi
 T. scopicola
 long spined scop X T. bridgesii
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durban_poison
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cpw1971]
#8359879 - 05/04/08 12:09 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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what varitey are you working with?
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cpw1971
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cpw1971]
#8359957 - 05/04/08 12:48 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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my tray has Pedros, Bridgesii and Torches mixed. nice variety you got there though 
so yeah graft yours now cause your gonna need that head start 
I will count out how many I will graft. I am thinking 100 possibly.
Edited by cpw1971 (05/04/08 12:58 AM)
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durban_poison
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cpw1971]
#8359981 - 05/04/08 01:02 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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how much longer till your ready? cause its on.
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sturmer88
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cpw1971]
#8360144 - 05/04/08 02:14 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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cpw1971 said: well flat grafting sucks. Ooklas method is the shit
I would think flat grafting is better for beginning grafts. I wouldn't want to try that until I get more experienced at it.
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cpw1971
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: sturmer88]
#8360609 - 05/04/08 07:58 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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flat grafting is very hard in comparison Dp... it could be few weeks
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cpw1971]
#8360777 - 05/04/08 10:05 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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i have failed nearly every time with flat grafting other than when the root stock is another column like cactus....perek is a no no for me...i fail each time and have lost many a young seedling
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durban_poison
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cheesie]
#8361607 - 05/04/08 03:19 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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you must not be getting the vascular rings aligned. do you keep them in high humidity for 2 weeks?
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: durban_poison]
#8361682 - 05/04/08 03:43 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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dude it looks like those seedlings are getting too much light, thats why theyre red like that.... are they under flouros or mh? flouros are better for seedlings
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durban_poison
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they are fine they grow right out of it. keeps for fatter seedlings.
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sturmer88
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Zinglons Acolyte said: dude it looks like those seedlings are getting too much light, thats why theyre red like that.... are they under flouros or mh? flouros are better for seedlings
Your right about flouros being best. I had my seedlings under HPS. It worked fine for the first month but as soon as they turned from the initial yellow to green the HPS started burning them bad. They all started turning red. I even tried tissue paper as shade cloth but that didn't work. I finally moved some under Flouros and others outside to the shade and they started to turn green again.
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: sturmer88]
#8363339 - 05/04/08 10:44 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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What happened to octavius?
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cpw1971
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: timmeh_87]
#8363589 - 05/04/08 11:46 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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read page 5
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timmeh_87
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cpw1971]
#8368472 - 05/06/08 11:22 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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So, you will post pics soon?
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: timmeh_87]
#8368504 - 05/06/08 11:31 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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@cpw: Concerning your needle method for getting the graft to take better, would you think it would also work to, say, take a double-pointed needle (cactus or metal) and impale the perk vertically, then put the cactus that's being grafted onto the tip of the perk with the needle impaling the bottom of it?
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