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Icelander
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Here's my truth.
#7540537 - 10/20/07 07:33 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know anything for sure. If you know me you hear me say this often here. The truth is that I'm confused really as to the nature of life and myself. I don't really know who or what I am.
Sometimes I hate it, I really, really hate not knowing. It's so painful for me. I want to know exactly what is going on here. But the truth as far as I know is I can't , and I can't turn my back on this.
My honesty about my confusion is the only truth I really know. I have come by this truth with a lifelong struggle and paid dearly and I can't sell it for a comfortable lie. It wouldn't work anyway, I know this, it's just how I am now. If it would work I would sell out; but I can't.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: Icelander]
#7540598 - 10/20/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I love this! It feels to me that it takes all the time to become honest and this realization occurred only after I grown tired of lying to myself... or when I become aware that I was feeding on thoughts that were not mine. Because there are just so many thoughts that I've never payed attention to and then something happens which makes me realize: this is bull shit too! But I find it quite funny most of the times because it's a great feeling of relief. Other times I get scared but I instantly realize that there's no turning back, so I might as well just enjoy it.
-------------------- All this time I've loved you And never known your face All this time I've missed you And searched this human race Here is true peace Here my heart knows calm Safe in your soul Bathed in your sighs
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demiu5
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: Icelander]
#7540615 - 10/20/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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often I've so wished I could go back to not thinking about/questioning everything and just live the 9-5 life without ever thinking twice, but I know that it would not be possible without much more frustration than I feel on the path of questioning
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Clean
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: Icelander]
#7540665 - 10/20/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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wonderful thread / posts...
right now my truth is best summed up by a still shot from THX1138.. (think about the context of the scene)
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: Clean]
#7540671 - 10/20/07 08:12 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Awesome pic.
-------------------- All this time I've loved you And never known your face All this time I've missed you And searched this human race Here is true peace Here my heart knows calm Safe in your soul Bathed in your sighs
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Divided_Sky
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Icelander, I guess just keep paying attention. Life is really confusing to me too. What I have concluded this far is that what needs revision is how we know or percieve things, because if we look in the wrong way we will see nothing. I think whatever you need to know is in a way unknowable, it's just being. Until we are not looking for it, but looking as it, or hell just being and not even looking anymore, the truth will not be clear.
Of course, then there is what to do in human life and I don't think I will ever know.
-------------------- 1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..." 2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..." 3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."
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Middleman
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: Icelander]
#7541317 - 10/21/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Absolute Truth is paradoxical in nature, it is beyond rational comprehension.
A healthy sense of humor about Life and Self yeilds maximum enjoyment of existence.
Everything is constantly changing so be involved yet unattached, and hopeful, yet without any expectations.
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MarkostheGnostic
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: Icelander]
#7541345 - 10/21/07 01:07 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said: I don't know anything for sure. If you know me you hear me say this often here. The truth is that I'm confused really as to the nature of life and myself. I don't really know who or what I am.
Sometimes I hate it, I really, really hate not knowing. It's so painful for me. I want to know exactly what is going on here. But the truth as far as I know is I can't , and I can't turn my back on this.
My honesty about my confusion is the only truth I really know. I have come by this truth with a lifelong struggle and paid dearly and I can't sell it for a comfortable lie. It wouldn't work anyway, I know this, it's just how I am now. If it would work I would sell out; but I can't.
"I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together..."
For Real. Our nuclei are identical. Our electron shells make up the differences. We can bond electrovalently as more illusion, or we can fuse our nuclei and Realize that there is only ONE. Let us fuse in Nirvana.
-------------------- γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself
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DimensionX
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Isent that ultimate confusion? an awarness with no boundaries we can define, existing as some kind of defined individual? If you think about it too much you lose your mind and if you dont think about it at all you also lose your mind, i am unable to find balance with this at the moment.
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Boots
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: DimensionX]
#7541760 - 10/21/07 07:43 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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On the comedown of a recent 7g 'shroom trip, I came to the realization that I wanted to know everything. Soon after, I came to the realization that that was impossible. It seemed to me pretty pointless to continue living for a dream that would never come true.
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MarkostheGnostic
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: DimensionX]
#7542853 - 10/21/07 01:38 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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"I usually congratulate people when they tell me, 'I don't know who I am anymore.' Then they look perplexed and ask, 'Are you saying it is a good thing to be confused?' I ask them to investigate. What does it mean to be confused? 'I don't know' is not confusion. Confusion is: 'I don't know, but I should know' or 'I don't know, but I need to know.' Is it possible to let go of the belief that you should or need to know who you are? In other words, can you cease looking to conceptual definitions to give you a sense of self? Can you cease looking to thought for an identity? When you let go of the belief that you should or need to know who you are, what happens to confusion? Suddenly it is gone. When you fully accept that you don't know, you actually enter a state of peace and clarity that is closer to who who you truly are than thought could ever be. Defining yourself through thought is limiting yourself."
From A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose by Eckhart Tolle Page 90, Chapter Four, 'Role-Playing: The Many Faces of the Ego
-------------------- γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself
Edited by MarkostheGnostic (10/21/07 05:28 PM)
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: Icelander]
#7542911 - 10/21/07 01:50 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Floss daily to prevent truth decay. Don't become troothless.
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Icelander
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Great quote. Maybe I'm heading in a good direction after all.:D
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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fake estate
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: Icelander]
#7543162 - 10/21/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i think the strongest realization people can make is that nothing is constant and everything is impossible to rationalize....throughout history people have found 'happiness' by supposedly explaining the unexplainable...i believe the main proponent of this is organized religion
are you religious?
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Grok
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: Icelander]
#7543489 - 10/21/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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:hands Icelander the DMT pipe:
Honestly, that's a pretty commendable position to take. A lot of us might be selling ourselves short by believing that we do know.
We're all here, we're all roaming around this strange domain having the similar feelings, thinking similar thoughts, and trying to progress in one way or another. What we believe doesn't really matter, because it's not going to change any of that - unless it is.
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DimensionX
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: Grok]
#7544722 - 10/21/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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If awareness isen't thought, what is it? Maybe thought is the awareness expressing itself, and like a work of art thought and awareness would be intimately connected so as to become almost identical. So like a work of art, to its creator it is a perfect expression of self, but to someone else viewing it, it may appear a pale reflection.
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SoY
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: DimensionX]
#7544846 - 10/21/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
MarkostheGnostic said: "I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together..."
For Real. Our nuclei are identical. Our electron shells make up the differences. We can bond electrovalently as more illusion, or we can fuse our nuclei and Realize that there is only ONE. Let us fuse in Nirvana.
En Lak'esh, Al la Kim. You are another me, I am another you.
-------------------- "The choiceless truth of who you are is revealed to be permanently here permeating everything. Not a thing and not separate from anything."--Gaganji "Yesterday is but today's memory and tomorrow is today's dream." "My karma ran over my dogma!"
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: SoY]
#7544863 - 10/21/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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SoY
-------------------- All this time I've loved you And never known your face All this time I've missed you And searched this human race Here is true peace Here my heart knows calm Safe in your soul Bathed in your sighs
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SoY
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I just thought I would reassure everyone that I was not dead...
-------------------- "The choiceless truth of who you are is revealed to be permanently here permeating everything. Not a thing and not separate from anything."--Gaganji "Yesterday is but today's memory and tomorrow is today's dream." "My karma ran over my dogma!"
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Kinematics
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Re: Here's my truth. [Re: SoY]
#7546546 - 10/22/07 11:51 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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All I know is that I don't know nothin'.
good song.
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