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Are these Amanita Muscaria?
    #7540420 - 10/20/07 06:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well, my dad, friend and me went picking again.

No Psylocibibbiblle... things.

But we think we found Muscaria. I have pictures, but the camera is broken and no longer takes true color photographs so they all turned out pinkish. In real life the caps are:

Found in clearing: Light orange with strictnine splotches all over them. None were open in this clearing.

Found in the corner of the field, under th overhanding trees in the grass were more. These ones had vibrant red caps, some of the fading was slighting orange, but all together red. They Some of them still had plenty of splotches, some were cleaned. The slugs loved them, so did the flies, like crazy. Mosquito's.

The stocks were fat, and even more so at the base with their buldge. Some of them were long (over four to six inches) and others short, and still popping up.

Some of the caps are open, still containing most of the splotches.

After picking them, and pocketing them, we found at home the red became even more so richer and vibrant.

Here are the photographs..

http://worldgraphics.info/1/snm_744.jpg
http://worldgraphics.info/1/chj_496.jpg
http://worldgraphics.info/1/cyv_038.jpg
http://worldgraphics.info/1/dsf_017.jpg
http://worldgraphics.info/1/pqv_590.jpg

Calculating our weight with a smaller scale designed for herbs, we figure the overall weight around 11 ounces to a pound. We didn't weight all of them.


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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Amerikan Metz]
    #7540454 - 10/20/07 07:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like they probably are (80%). Some of the defining characteristics do not have enough detail, but appear to be present.
You don't want to mess with those. A. muscaria have close cousins that all look very much alike. Amanitas are responsible for a majority of all mushroom poisonings.
They are beautiful though :derfase:


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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #7540475 - 10/20/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm okay. They do look like every picture. It's hard to tell on my shitty camera, but they have the ring, they are very red. They got the spots.

So we do want to try these. How big of a piece of the cap should we boil to try them? Inch? Two inches? by half inch?


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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Amerikan Metz]
    #7540486 - 10/20/07 07:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You should not eat them if you cannot get a 100% identification. That is very risky and could lead to serious health problems. Please, think before you do something reckless.


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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Amerikan Metz]
    #7540504 - 10/20/07 07:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Here are pictures from a cell phone. Still not true color. If you can imagine them red, like that A color icon up there pretty much, but a bit deeper.

http://worldgraphics.info/1/byc_213.jpg
http://worldgraphics.info/1/dkm_544.jpg
http://worldgraphics.info/1/pqv_081.jpg
http://worldgraphics.info/1/hoo_611.jpg

Yes, Washington, Seattle - Lynnwood

So we should dehydrate them first?

I am pretty sure we got A. Muscaria I wish we had a high resolution camera.


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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? *DELETED* [Re: Amerikan Metz]
    #7540528 - 10/20/07 07:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Chemy]
    #7540555 - 10/20/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Alright. Thank you very much. I will let you know if I got sick or nor. :wink: That way I can share the pictures of look-alikes.

I'll try photoshopping them to the real color. As an artist. :P


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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Amerikan Metz]
    #7540894 - 10/20/07 09:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Okay... we were drying them out. And my friends drank like a small bit. Like... less then a table spoon, daluted. The extract liqued from the Amanita's themselves.

Are they going to get sick, or fry hard?

I had no part in this.


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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Amerikan Metz]
    #7540966 - 10/20/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You were already given the information. If you do not prepare A. muscaria properly you will get very sick. The liquid from the mushrooms you friends drank will make them sick. Amanitas contain harmful amatoxins. Some Amanita species are deadly, and should not be "tested". No mushroom should be tested, actually.

It's not wise to eat something and THEN ask what it will do. That's backwards and stupid.


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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Amerikan Metz]
    #7540977 - 10/20/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Okay... we were drying them out. And my friends drank like a small bit. Like... less then a table spoon, daluted. The extract liqued from the Amanita's themselves.

Are they going to get sick, or fry hard?

I had no part in this.



a tno poitn will aminitas make you "fr hard"
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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: jet li]
    #7540984 - 10/20/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed no one here SHOULD be supporting you eating a shroom you still do not have a positive id on yet. Your freinds drank exactly the part of the shroom you were told will make you sick, and that's assuming they are am. musc. Slow down dude, you do not need it that bad. you can order them in some countries (like canada about $40 an oz.)! Be sure to take your freinds to a hospital if they get sick and tell the doctors EXACTLY what you did. Hope everything turns out O>K>


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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Amerikan Metz]
    #7541344 - 10/21/07 01:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

My money's on "fry hard"

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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #7541729 - 10/21/07 07:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Looks like they probably are (80%). Some of the defining characteristics do not have enough detail, but appear to be present.
You don't want to mess with those. A. muscaria have close cousins that all look very much alike. Amanitas are responsible for a majority of all mushroom poisonings.
They are beautiful though :derfase:




What are the close cousins that are poisonous?


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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: undergrounder]
    #7542105 - 10/21/07 10:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)



Here's one.
Amanita flavoconia
and look how much this one alone can vary:




Here's another:




Amanita frostiana

There's many, many more. That is why most of them are listed as poisonous/suspect/unknown.

Photos courtesy of rogers plants LTD.

Like I said, there's a good 80% chance they are, but like I said in another post, why take that risk to achieve undesirable effects in the first place?


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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Amerikan Metz]
    #7542172 - 10/21/07 10:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Okay... we were drying them out. And my friends drank like a small bit. Like... less then a table spoon, daluted. The extract liqued from the Amanita's themselves.

Are they going to get sick, or fry hard?

I had no part in this.




Wow. Dumb friends. Don't go mushroom hunting with them anymore. Wouldn't be fun to explain to the cops if they die from something you picked and helped prepare. Not that I'm saying that'll happen - just that it could.


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Re: Are these Amanita Muscaria? [Re: BrandNoob]
    #7542696 - 10/21/07 01:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

They fried somewhat. We know how to prepare them, my dad had done them for 25 years, as well as my brothers dad. My dad just hasn't seen any in at least 10 years.

They are some at are orange like Amanita flavoconia however, it is stated in our book that the sun will lighten an Aminuta Muscaria to a orange. Which we think is the case, as they were tightly packed, and as they moved under the trees they were vibrant red.

I know you guys and gals can't tell from the picture, but I'm talking DEEP red.

Anyways, they fried somewhat, but did not have enough. They had no negative effects what so ever.

And I know. Dave is retarded. ADHD+OCD+Whatever else makes him SOOO amped and like "LETS DO IT!" and it's like "No dude, you can't." Like he wanted to eat them as we were picking them, and I said "No dude, we don't even know if they are editable, or how to prepare them!" And of course as he asked my dad, of course you need to thoroughly cook them.

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I have two jobs. So does everyone else that came along. Nevertheless, what does that have to do with anything? If I wanted to 'sell' Amanitas I could by an ounce of caps from local Washington growers for 18 bucks....

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In response to the other Amanita's

Amanita frostiana is incredibly rare, and found in Eastern North America.

Amanita flavoconia
is distinctly different at the base of it stalk, as it does not have the remnants of the concentric volva material, forming a somewhat ring on the bottom of the stalk, usually at the top of the swell.

Also, both species have much smaller stalks then the Amanita Muscaria, and A. Flavoconia sometimes doesn't even have a bulge at the base.


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