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InvisibleRobo
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Re: Legal psychedelics? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7540256 - 10/20/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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opensaysme said:
I have no idea, i would say they thats highly unlikely though. Doing an extraction on syrup would be way to time consuming and not cost effective.



Probably, but I sat down and worked it out anyway just to see:

500mg of pure DXM is a pretty strong dose that most people wouldn't do but some do. That's a little over 2 bottles worth of cough syrup.  So I set my standard at 1.5 bottles when I worked all of this out. Anyways, I'm looking at a bottle of 8 oz. Robitussin Nighttime right now. It contains a whole mess of Acetaminophen in addition to dextromethorphan, and ideally you would probably want to extract from a brand that has as little of that as possible (Like Vicks 44, I believe). But at the same time you want it to be closer in thickness to water than syrup so it doesn't clog up your sep funnel.

Anyways, the bottle says there's 5 mg DXM per 5 mL tsp. The bottle as I said before is 8 oz. or approximately 237 mL. If one tsp is 5 mL, then there are 47.5 tspns in the bottle. Times that by 5mg and thats about 237 mg DXM per bottle, so let's just say there's 240 mg in one bottle of syrup.

pure DXM dosage:
Light = 100-200 mg
Common = 200-400mg
Strong = 300-600 mg
Heavy = 600-1500mg

So my standard of 1.5 bottles is about 360mg, which is a common but not totally strong dose of DXM.  A bottle is about 9 dollars, two bottles is 18 dollars. So, 1.5 bottles of syrup would run you $13.50, and you could sell that extracted dose of 360mg for maybe $20 (most I would pay for some pure DXM), so every dosage unit you sold would make a profit of $6.50, which isn't that much. Selling 500mg to someone wouldn't make you much profit either, then (about 9 dollars when you work it out).

You could extract a whole lot of DXM depending on the size of your separatory funnel and use loads and loads of bottles of syrup. Then again, you'd have to factor in the cost of NaOH and HCl (dirt cheap), and your solvent (which could be used over and over to your hearts content). Time isn't that big of an issue, you could do the process fairly quick if you had a distillation setup to speed up evaporating to get your DXM salt.

Conclusion: pure DXM extracted from cough syrup isn't very profitable. But you can make a little extra cash here and there from a totally legal substance :wink:

(Getting someone to sell you all of those bottles of cough syrup is another issue,though)


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Re: Legal psychedelics? [Re: learningtofly]
    #7540262 - 10/20/07 06:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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learningtofly said:
that was good huh?



Yeah, you got me good. :wink:


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Re: Legal psychedelics? [Re: Robo]
    #7540308 - 10/20/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You worked out that set-up pretty well, and i agree it makes sense. But the site sells 500mg caps at 2$ a pop, when people could just order them easily online i wouldn't see the purpose of doing an extraction. But if i had no way to order products online or only had access to straight syrup i would def do it.


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Re: Legal psychedelics? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7540311 - 10/20/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That was the next thing I was going to ask that I didn't know, the price of one 500mg capsule of DXM. For 2 dollars, I'd say throw all of that extraction business out the window :grin:


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Re: Legal psychedelics? [Re: Robo]
    #7540335 - 10/20/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not a fan of dxm anymore personally, last time i tried it i drank a bottle of zicam cough mist max which is a concentrated nasal spray. Its only about a shot glass worth of liquid and contains around 350-400mg DXM and costs around 7.50$. I just did not enjoy the experience at all, and i took nothing away from it.

When i was younger and had not yet gotten access to shrooms, acid, and RCs i used to trip on DXM a lot, too often even. Now trying it again after using shrooms, acid, and DOC, it just does not appeal to me. I realize that for some people it can be great and they love it, more power to them! I don't have anything against it, its just not for me anymore...

I agree with thedudenj, if you want a legal psychedelic go with the obscure RCs.


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Re: Legal psychedelics? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7540389 - 10/20/07 06:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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opensaysme said:

I agree with thedudenj, if you want a legal psychedelic go with the obscure RCs. 




Just remember that they aren't really legal. :shrug:


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Re: Legal psychedelics? [Re: MrKite1]
    #7540400 - 10/20/07 06:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Semi-legal then :shrug:
an-uh-lawg act...


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Re: Legal psychedelics? [Re: Robo]
    #7540409 - 10/20/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

stick wit illegal drugs, dont them fools realize that they can get rid of ALL illegal drug use with one simple rule... just legalize it!


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Re: Legal psychedelics? [Re: Robo]
    #7540412 - 10/20/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Semi-legal is good enough for me.  :naughty:


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Re: Legal psychedelics? [Re: MrKite1]
    #7540419 - 10/20/07 06:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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MrKite1 said:
Semi-legal is good enough for me.  :naughty:




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Re: Legal psychedelics? [Re: MrKite1]
    #7540425 - 10/20/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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MrKite1 said:
Semi-legal is good enough for me.  :naughty:



I as well :crazy2:


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