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    #7538783 - 10/20/07 10:19 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

As some of you know I've recently stopped smoking marijuana, something I've done regularly for years.  It's made me take a look at my alcohol consumption.

I've never been a huge drinker, but I find myself drunk once or twice a weekend.  I never drink by myself, and have no desire to, but I'm starting to question my drinking habit.  It is a habit, as I do it on a regular basis -- the trip to the beer vendor is a very familiar part of my Friday and Saturday evenings -- but it's not compulsive.  Just easy to do.


I'm just wondering: how much do you drink, and how do you feel about it? 

Do you drink more than you think you should? 

Why do you drink? When do you drink?


My closest circle of friends (three friends in particular) drink a lot. A minimum of a six-pack every day of the week.  I don't think any of them could quit drinking.  One of them recently confessed to me that he is certain he will die early because of it.

I worry that it will be difficult to hang out with them when they're drinking and I'm not.  Sometimes I drink to avoid having this question answered, I guess.  But now I'm intending to drink much less, and I'm not sure what will happen.

Anyway,  just curious about how you people feel about your drinking.

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Re: Drinking [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7538803 - 10/20/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I drink, more often alone than not.  But When I drink alone, I never really have more than half a bottle of wine.  In total I probably go through a bottle or two a week, mostly shared with my bandmates during practices.  Also every once in a while, I meet up with some friends from work for a pint or three to unwind after the work week.  I feel my drinking is nicely moderated.     

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Re: Drinking [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #7545131 - 10/21/07 11:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Some people, alot of people, actually, really put pressure on non-drinkers to drink. Then, if you DON'T, they shut you out or act like you're not there. It's the most idiotic, sophomoric form of peer pressure possible, but it still hurts.

I don't drink at all, personally. I went through a brief 6-month or so period in college where I drank hard liquor often, even doing things like chasing Everclear shots with water (barf!), but I eventually got sick and decided enough was enough. The positive effects just weren't worth the bad physical ones, not to mention, alcohol is a depressant and did nothing to help my mood. I was cranky, hungover, and wanted nothing more than to be left alone and sleep in, often missing class completely. I didn't find being drunk to be enlightening in the least, and the novelty eventually wore off.

I've watched people throw away some great opportunities for alcohol, which always baffles me. College dropouts, 30-year-olds living with their mothers, and other unhappy losers started to outnumber the decent, hardworking friends I had, so the message was loud and clear.

Of course, not everyone becomes dependent on alcohol or throws away all their money and time on it, but many do. It can destroy both physical and mental health and, unlike pot, you can't just get wasted on a Sunday night and wake up feeling refreshed and energized on Monday. The hangovers are what caused a lot of my friends to become lazy and unmotivated, and also made me feel like it just wasn't worth it.

Like anything else, it all comes down to how often you do it, how much you do it when you do it, and your reasons for doing it in the first place. Do you genuinely enjoy the feeling alcohol gives you? Do you use it to self-medicate? How much do you know about alcohol and its effects on the mind/body? Where does it fit into your life? Are the benefits worth the risks to you?

It's always helpful for me to sit down with a pen and paper and write out the "pros and cons" of a given decision I'm trying to make. It sounds like a no-brainer, but seeing it on paper can really help. It allows you to be totally honest with yourself, too.

Life is short. Don't do anything you don't want to do. Don't follow the crowd for the sake of following the crowd. Live for yourself and do the best you can. That's the best advice I have to give.


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Re: Drinking [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7545181 - 10/21/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I drink beer once in a while...once a month at the most. I drink when I am happy. So I become more happy. Usually alone...mainly because people piss me off and if I am pissed off while drunk thats not good for them. I don't get hangovers or anything so I don't really feel bad about drinking.


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Re: Drinking [Re: MK Ultra]
    #7550334 - 10/23/07 10:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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MK Ultra said:
Like anything else, it all comes down to how often you do it, how much you do it when you do it, and your reasons for doing it in the first place.  Do you genuinely enjoy the feeling alcohol gives you?  Do you use it to self-medicate?  How much do you know about alcohol and its effects on the mind/body?  Where does it fit into your life? Are the benefits worth the risks to you?





I like the taste.  I cant stand drinking just to get drunk.  Drinking that way makes me sick, as I usually go too fast, and drink way too much.  I prefer to slowly sip a glass of wine, or drink a beer, without any objective other than enjoying a tasty beverage.  The intoxicating effects are a purely a bonus :wink:

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Re: Drinking [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7552259 - 10/23/07 06:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

On occasion I enjoy sake, vodka, and light beer. As a committed polydrug abuser I sometimes resort to alcohol. Alcohol is a cheap, pathetic, low-grade molecule which provokes a simple, warm 'n fuzzy kind of high... but let's at least be smart about it if we use it.
Anyone who claims they drink beer for the taste is an idiot. Beer tastes fucking disgusting -- like salty carbonated water. But you drink it because it gets you high. And how many calories do you want to be sucking down in the interest of intoxication? I remember this old, sickly fat geezer who lived in a pub and would always chastise me for ordering light beer. He called it fag beer. He died of a heart attack.
Past beer, and generally speaking, the more opaque the alcohol the more likely it is to give you a severe hangover. The reason? Congeners. I try to stick to vodka and sake if I have to resort to alcohol, but alcohol as I say is a pretty sad molecule. It's neurotoxic and the potential behavioral effects are laughable. But it's so enmeshed in our (Western) culture that most people don't even consider it "a drug".


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Re: Drinking [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7552468 - 10/23/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

some people like the taste of beer...I do..

But I admit I enjoy the intoxicating effects. Its all about what kind of beer your drinking. Some taste absolutely disgusting, some taste great.


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Re: Drinking [Re: aDoS]
    #7552533 - 10/23/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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aDoS said:
some people like the taste of beer...I do..




I do too. 

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But I admit I enjoy the intoxicating effects. Its all about what kind of beer your drinking. Some taste absolutely disgusting, some taste great.




I agree :laugh:

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Re: Drinking [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #7552966 - 10/23/07 09:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

my moms a huge alcoholic and raided my stash when she visited me. this last weekend, i went to go visit her, so i could rightfully re-claim what was mine.

she was hiding her bottles under the sink. i poured myself 3 glasses of straight vodka(not dinky shot glasses either but like drinking glasses for water). i took 2mg xanax with it, and blacked out halfway through my 2nd glass. apparently after i blacked out i started rambling complete jibberish to my mom about how i was going to track down some serial rapist named Bob so i could chop his body into pieces. she must have been giving me a really sarcastic reaction, because i stood up to announce: "Contrary to popular opinion mom, im not stupid. im brilliant..." then I thrust my finger in her face and scream "FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!!!" I then storm off as if I was struck with an idea. HAHAHA. she said it looked/sounded just like some shit a crazy homeless person would say.

then i cooked myself some fried chicken, and then ordered my mom to drink the rest of my vodka that was left in my last refill. she refused but i insisted until she complied. i must have been really pissed off at her, because she said the vodka tasted like fucking chicken. so either i was retarded off my ass and drooling in the cup, or i spit in the glass to spite her. after she complained about the taste of chicken in the vodka, i said something along the lines of: "that's the way the cookie crumbles."

HAHAHAHA! i never knew i was such a funny person.


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Re: Drinking [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7553515 - 10/24/07 01:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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the trip to the beer vendor is a very familiar part of my Friday and Saturday evenings -- but it's not compulsive. Just easy to do.



well, have an experiment next weekend: don't buy alcohol and do what you usually do. see what happens.  It's worth a try isn't it!?

I'm drinking way less that years ago (I'm 25 now). Before I got 'drunk' once or twice a week, and now it almost never happens. I came to the conclusion I like it more with just a few drinks than with a lot of drinks :thumbup:

I guess your drinking isn't compulsive, or an addiction, but it is an habit that might be hard to break. Since you're used to drink another and another beer your automatic reaction is to go after that. Try your exp[eriment en report back:cool:


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Re: Drinking [Re: stefan]
    #7553534 - 10/24/07 01:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I drink, more often than I'd like. Because what I consider OK is against the law. My family is alcoholics, so I don't drink alone, and have learned to stay away from troublesome liquids. Although I have to say I will one day quit forever (wouldn't you?) I would rather smoke a joint than other options.
Alcohol is easy, legal, and available. to me, that's all.


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Re: Drinking [Re: Pandora]
    #7553545 - 10/24/07 01:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I drink, more often than I'd like.



if you feel you drink more ofthen than you would like to, it sounds like it is a problem, otherwise you wouldn't feel that way. Try saying 'no', it isn't that bad;)

I don't think I would quit completely myself, because I like wine at dinner sometimes or a beer or two some evenings.


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Re: Drinking [Re: Pandora]
    #7553551 - 10/24/07 01:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I used to be a very infrequent drinker and maybe drink once every week or two. Now I drink at least a 1.75L bottle in less than a week, with my daily beer. It's not a habit, just something I've felt like doing lately. After this bottle is finished (early morning), I'm going to take a long vacation from it.


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Re: Drinking [Re: stefan]
    #7553923 - 10/24/07 07:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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stefan said:

well, have an experiment next weekend: don't buy alcohol and do what you usually do. see what happens. It's worth a try isn't it!?





I am pretty sure I know what will happen. My friends will ask why I'm not drinking, and I'll say "I don't want to tonight," and they'll continue to bug me, and I'll say "STFU asshole" and we'll still hang out but I won't have fun because it's not fun to be with drunk people when you're sober and I'll go home early, surf the shroomery, beat off then go to bed. Maybe I'm just assuming though. I will try it anyway though.


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