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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: postanaldrip]
#7582377 - 10/31/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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none of us have a clue what the government and all of its secret sectors are capable of or how long it would take them to wire a building
The evil government can't do magic.
The only clue a non-moron needs to know is that a professional demolitions team takes months to wire a building a fraction the size of the towers with explosives.
And they have the run of an EMPTY building, not one with almost a quarter million visitors walking around every day who somehow don't notice the thousands of wall panels that have to be removed and then replaced so explosives can be attached to structures.
Duh.
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: postanaldrip]
#7582619 - 10/31/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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postanaldrip said: I mean, come on, my rating has dropped like a shroom and a half since I started posting in this thread. How egomaniac do you have to be to fuck with somebodies rating. Who cares? This all about people feeling butt hurt and wanting to get back at each other because of differences in opinion. Some seriously childish bullshit.
Dude, you only have 3 shroom ratings total and 2 of them came from this thread. One supporting you and one against you.
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Diploid]
#7582690 - 10/31/07 11:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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The evil government can't do magic.
D00d, what?!
The Bush admin did such an obviously perfect A+ job with hurricane Katrina..the Iraq war.. and port and border security.. no one can say they can't go on to pull off an incredibly elaborate conspiracy involving thousands of people!
Pfffft!!
They just fake like their incompetent now and then to throw people off.
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Diploid]
#7582737 - 11/01/07 12:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Why would we fire a missile at our own building?
Especially if, as the nut jobs insist, the government can somehow manage to crash two airplanes into the towers, all the while keeping the hundreds, maybe thousands of people who must have been involved COMPLETELY quiet. Crashing a plane into the Pentagon should be a piece of cake.
And nevermind that it takes MONTHS to wire a 20 story building for demolition, yet somehow the evil government managed to wire two ~100 story buildings for demolition with 200,000 people visiting every day, and NOBODY NOTICED!
And nevermind that the evil government can manage that outstanding feat of coordination but somehow is too incompetent to keep quiet the goings on in a military prison named Abu Ghraib and another one on an isolated military base on an island, called Gitmo.
And nevermind that missiles move at supersonic speeds, but there was no sonic boom.
And nevermind that hundreds of people actually saw with their own eyes an airplane crash into the Pentagon.
And nevermind the pieces of airplane littering the lawn at the Pentagon and the airplane engines found nearby.
Give me a break. This forum has sooo opened my eyes to why the human race is so hopelessly fucked up. No example of human stupidity amazes me any more; not after the shining examples demonstrated in threads like this one.
well ill answer this before i leave, how did a plane hit the pentagon but not the light polls on the way their?? why is their only one hole and not 2?? there are 2 engines on that plane....and why did the fbi denie reporters pictures from certain angles??? and why did they have a crane their within hours making that hole bigger??? and their was no damage from the wings...yet in the 9/11 footage wings clearly do some visable damage. and why was all video's confiscated???
and to the person who gave the link in response to my video's, that guy was paid to find a "rational" reason for why their looked like something was attached to the underside of the plane....if he said anything else he would be a laughing stock and be kicked out of his line of work....thats not to say he doesn't have a decent point however, but when you look at that photo it still looks like theirs something their with "my eyes".
...so even after the mods came in here and warned everyone to be respectful, the tinfoils get flamed yet again....this time we are not only stupid...but will are also the cause/reason humanity is so "hopelessly" fucked up....didn't really expect that from a "mod"
we think different so we must be stupid, i post a theory and get a response like "ive posted a link 1000 times" I go their find a loophole/theory/idea(<--yeah i gotta be careful how i word this or i get flamed again...) post it and what do i get in return?? 
and i see why the sheep get pissed off, alot of times things have already been covered(with websites that do prove alot of things wrong with "FACTS") however the other half of them websites is full of profession "opinions" which are clearly not facts...and i think my "debreeze" statement a few pages back at least add's a question to that sopposedly "debunked" theory.
, but another reason the sheep get so mad is the tin foils keep asking questions...questions they themselves actually don't have an answer for and can't find a website discussing it.
anyways im done with this thread, i guess the sheep people have won in silenceing me. I would have liked to gone through more of the posts but im done...whoever said it, your right this thread is going nowhere because all people want to do is flame.
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7582754 - 11/01/07 12:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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how did a plane hit the pentagon but not the light polls on the way their??

Several light poles WERE hit. Where do you get your misinformation? 
why is their only one hole and not 2?? ... and their was no damage from the wings
A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building. Only someone completely ignorant of the most basic facts of structural engineering, but who thinks he has the first clue what the fuck he's talking about, would think otherwise.
the tinfoils get flamed yet again
I haven't flamed anyone in this thread. I've flamed conspiracy nut jobs in general.
It's just like flaming republicans.
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Diploid]
#7582764 - 11/01/07 12:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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1 down....7 to go.
and you said shinning examples in this thread of stupidity....and their are tinfoils in here, just because you don't call them by name i don't see how that makes it different. I think they call that discrimination?
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7582768 - 11/01/07 12:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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1 down....7 to go.
All your points have been addressed over and over again for anyone with an objective eye. I'm not going to do it again.
It's funny how it doesn't seem to bother you one little bit that you're so totally misinformed about the light poles. You've made up your mind but you haven't even bothered to get accurate facts first. The conspiracy ride is anti-government and that's all that counts. To hell with the truth.
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Diploid]
#7582781 - 11/01/07 01:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well anyways here's a nice article for anyone who hasn't seen it then regarding the lightpoles just discussed. and i don't remember seeing any of these photo's so it must not have been discussed very much...probly because all the shining examples of sheep flames when its brought up.
http://911review.org/brad.com/pentagon/lightpoles/
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7582783 - 11/01/07 01:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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and i don't remember seeing any of these photo's
Of course not. True to form, accurate facts are not important to you. You've made up your mind in a vacuum because your pre-conclusion is conveniently anti-government. And like I said, that's all the conspiracy crowd cares about.
The Truth is irrelevant to you.
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7582790 - 11/01/07 01:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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im in here because i like to discuss things...so no i try not to let things bother me but sometimes they do i admit, especially when people are trying to flame/discriminate me, or my sub-culture.
people miss things, this thread is huge, i only recall seeing the lightposts once and i can't even remember what peoples response was to it. However, i really don't think its appropriate for people to flame each other over such things.
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7582794 - 11/01/07 01:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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people miss things, this thread is huge, i only recall seeing the lightposts once
This has nothing to do with this thread. If you're making up your mind based on this thread, then you've just made my point for me: you haven't bothered to research things before coming to your pre-conclusion.
So I say it again. You don't care about the truth. If you did, you would have researched carefully before making up your mind, and you would have been aware that several light poles were knocked down at the Pentagon.
That you could be so TOTALLY misinformed as to think that no light poles were knocked down at the Pentagon, yet you've already made up your mind, says volumes about you and the conspiracy crowd in general.
This is reminiscent of how black people almost universally think OJ is innocent. Not because this pre-conclusion makes any sense, but because it's anti-white and that's all that matters.
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Diploid]
#7582801 - 11/01/07 01:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building. Only someone completely ignorant of the most basic facts of structural engineering, but who thinks he has the first clue what the fuck he's talking about, would think otherwise.
oh cute editing your post up their...and i do remember seeing visable damage from the wings in the video of the 9/11 towers...

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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7582808 - 11/01/07 01:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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and i do remember seeing visable damage from the wings in the video of the 9/11 towers...
The towers were not made of reinforced concrete like the Pentagon.
Yet another relevant fact you're ignorant of but which hasn't stopped you from reaching a pre-conclusion.
Why am I not surprised.
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Diploid]
#7582811 - 11/01/07 01:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Diploid said: people miss things, this thread is huge, i only recall seeing the lightposts once
This has nothing to do with this thread. If you're making up your mind based on this thread, then you've just made my point for me: you haven't bothered to research things before coming to your pre-conclusion.
So I say it again. You don't care about the truth. If you did, you would have researched carefully before making up your mind.
That you could be so TOTALLY misinformed as to think that no light poles were knocked down at the Pentagon, yet you've already made up your mind, says volumes about you and the conspiracy crowd in general.
This is reminiscent of how black people almost universally think OJ is innocent. Not because this pre-conclusion makes sense, but because it's anti-white and that's all that matters.
wow is all i gotta say...
and in case you missed it all throughout this thread, and in my previous posts just now, these are "idea's" ,not being put out as cold hard facts.
So when i run with an idea in here, im looking to be currected if need be, but look at all the drama you bring with it?
you compared me AND the tinfoils, to anti-white black people.....i don't think that was very to anyone.....
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7582814 - 11/01/07 01:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So when i run with an idea in here, im looking to be currected if need be, but look at all the drama you bring with it?
So you don't dispute any facts Diploid brought to the table?
Anyone?
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Diploid]
#7582818 - 11/01/07 01:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Diploid said: and i do remember seeing visable damage from the wings in the video of the 9/11 towers...
The towers were not made of reinforced concrete like the Pentagon.
Yet another relevant fact you're ignorant of but which hasn't stopped you from reaching a pre-conclusion.
Why am I not surprised.
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The plane that hit it went in and on and on and on.
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7582822 - 11/01/07 01:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I call it like I see it.
The conspiracy crowd ignore the facts and the GLARING inconsistencies in their pre-conclusions so long as things fit their anti-government disposition.
Black people who think OJ is innocent do the same thing so long as things fit their anti-white disposition.
From where I sit, both mindsets look pretty much the same. What else can I tell ya.
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7582827 - 11/01/07 01:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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The plane that hit it went in and on and on and on.
The wings were sheared off and disintegrated on impact. Airplanes are designed to be very light. Wings are very strong only in the load direction necessary to support the fuselage, but they're very delicate in every other way, especially compared to reinforced concrete. If this were not so, they would be too heavy to fly. I'm a licensed pilot and I have a graduate engineering degree; I know this stuff.
Meanwhile, you are ignorant of the most elementary facts of aeronautical structural engineering, yet this hasn't stopped you from forming an opinion about the nature of wings and how they behave when they impact something very hard.
Your pre-conclusion is anti-government and... well, you know the rest.
/me sighs
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Diploid]
#7582838 - 11/01/07 02:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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man, how many times did you edit that? I'm going for a cigarette...
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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Diploid]
#7582991 - 11/01/07 05:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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You make me laugh!
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