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zero cool
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casing prob. dirt on shrooms...???
#7537463 - 10/19/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok i am harvesting my fruits and there is a bunch of the casing(MGMC) stuck to the bottom of each shroom. does any one have any ideas of how to clean them up. right now i am just cutting off the bottom, but that is gonna waste a lot of good shit...
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BUDDHA_702
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: zero cool]
#7537479 - 10/19/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Use a brush like a tooth brush to clean them or just cut them were the dirt starts
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zero cool
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
#7537495 - 10/19/07 10:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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if i cut them off wont that waste a lot of weight?
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dysphoria
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: zero cool]
#7537499 - 10/19/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes, it will, relatively speaking. i find that simply using running water from the faucet and some finger rubbing love on the base removes most of the casing mix.
and dont forget to put a strainer or something over your sink so you dont fuck it up.
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: zero cool]
#7537504 - 10/19/07 10:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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just pull them off, brush off whatever you can with your hands/soft brush of some sort, and then dry them. Once they become dry, it's a lot easier to knock off the extra casing layer left on it if you give it another brush up.
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: dysphoria]
#7537508 - 10/19/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would recommend taking the time to clean them off, either with water or a brush of some kind.
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zero cool
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
#7537544 - 10/19/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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cool, running water and a strainer sounds like the procedure for me. first timer at casing, did three mycobags, crumbled and cased with MGMC in three seperate trays. each tray seems to be about 300g wet weight...so that means about 3 oz. dry right? also, can i just fill the trays with water to rehydrate them, and then just dump it out in 24 hrs, then case again and cover for three days then back in the fc with them? am i missing any steps?
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monstermitch
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
#7537548 - 10/19/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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dry them first. don't even bother messing with them wet. at least fully air dry them, then brush off the casing with either your bare fingers or a toothbrush.
when it's wet, it's too much of a pain to deal with.
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zero cool
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: monstermitch]
#7537558 - 10/19/07 10:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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can anyone check out my dunking and re-casing procedure that i wrote in my last post. just want to make sure I'm doing it right...thanks for all your input! it is needed and appreciated!
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mycocurious
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: monstermitch]
#7537567 - 10/19/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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monstermitch said: dry them first. don't even bother messing with them wet. at least fully air dry them, then brush off the casing with either your bare fingers or a toothbrush.
when it's wet, it's too much of a pain to deal with.
+1, they're much easier to clean when they've been dehydrated. Now, if the substrate was a manure, I would recommend clipping off a quarter-inch from the bottom and saving those stubbies for well boiled teas only They are bacteria in manures that aren't killed by pasteurization and while they aren't harmful to the grow, they can cause food poisoning.
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monstermitch
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: mycocurious]
#7537576 - 10/19/07 10:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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however...
if the shrooms are dried properly, food poisoning is likely no longer any sort of issue.
or if you make tea out of them... like you said.
cracker dry shrooms pose very little threat.
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zero cool
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: monstermitch]
#7537637 - 10/19/07 11:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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can anyone go over my next couple steps to get the 2nd flush going? do i take the casing layer off or just put more right over top of the old layer?
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mycocurious
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: monstermitch]
#7537645 - 10/19/07 11:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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:nods:
I didn't know the dehydrator would take care of that, but then again, if you're removing the crap - no pun intended - I can see the risk being greatly reduced. Never actually used it as a substrate myself; started with coco coir and recently switched to homemade compost.
Randomly, in the near future I'm hoping to test a new possible substrate - sugar beet pulp. Feed stores will sell it dirt cheap as feed-suppliment for horses. The only thing I've found about it in the archives is that it makes a poor casing material but that long enough ago that people were still saying coir couldn't be used as a substrate either. fun...fun...
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monstermitch
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: zero cool]
#7537701 - 10/19/07 11:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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zero cool said: can anyone go over my next couple steps to get the 2nd flush going? do i take the casing layer off or just put more right over top of the old layer?
don't remove anything.
dunk your substrate between flushes for rehydration. if you are using casing, and there's big holes and divots where you harvested fruits, just add some fresh casing mix there to even out the surface again. that's all. easy.
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mycocurious
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Re: casing prob. dirt on shrooms...??? [Re: monstermitch]
#7537740 - 10/20/07 12:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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monstermitch said: if you are using casing and there's big holes and divots where you harvested fruits, just add some fresh casing mix there to even out the surface again.
+1
...since a good portion of the purpose of the casing mixture is to be a contaminate barrier between the open air and the mycelium colony below those chunks become entry points for new contaminates to cause trouble.
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Don't mistake my tone for a "matter-of-fact" attitude. I'm just presenting what I believe to be correct, until I'm corrected... - How Myco-Curious Prepares Coir & Compost Substrates - How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier - How Myco-Curious Builds An Automated Greenhouse ------------------------------------ figgusfiddus said: Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.
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