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SymmetryGroup8
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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: AlCapwn]
#7537579 - 10/19/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't believe these propagandists on this site! We know they're all a bunch of druggies...
My brain has multiple holes and it freakin bleeds all the time. I think I'm dying... Help
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Robo
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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
#7537658 - 10/19/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Drugs kill.
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MK Ultra
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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: AlCapwn]
#7537907 - 10/20/07 12:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Marijuana does NOT kill brain cells. The tests used to prove that hypothesis included suffocating monkeys with masks shooting out more pot smoke than a human being could EVER ingest. The monkeys died from lack of oxygen, which is also what killed the brain cells. So, in theory, if you hold your smoke in for long periods of time, THAT could cause minimal loss of oxygen to the brain, but marijuana smoke in and of itself does NOT cause brain damage.
As for pot causing cancer, the theory goes that ANY kind of smoke has the potential to cause lung cancer. It does. But no one, even in long term studies of heavy pot smokers (5+ joints daily), has EVER gone on to develop lung cancer from marijuana alone. Chronic bronchitis? Yes. Airway irritation? Yes. But as for lung cancer and emphysema, the answer is still no.
The reason cigarettes and other forms of tobacco are carcinogens is because the chemical pesticides/herbicides/fungicides used on them break down into radioactive compounds, such as Polonium 210, Radium, and Strontium, among others. Tests have shown a carton of cigarettes to be comparable to having 200 chest xrays! We all know radiation causes cancer, but most of us don't know this "inconvenient truth" about the LEGAL smoke so many consume on a daily basis. (Recent studies have shown that THC and other cannabinoids, when injected into tumors, actually caused them to SHRINK! This is now being considered as a potential treatment for certain kinds of cancer, including prostate cancer and others).
Ecstasy's dangers can mainly be attributed to the fact that it's usually cut with anything from meth to PCP to heroin to AJAX. Pure MDMA can cause a nasty comedown, but nothing a healthy, mentally-stable person couldn't overcome with rest, nutrition, and exercise.
Any drug has the potential to cause changes in the chemistry of the brain, especially in people with underlying mental conditions. Dosage and frequency of usage make all the difference. Anyone who uses drugs in moderate, sensible doses, researches their effects beforehand, and makes sure to space out their consumption should not be concerned. That's assuming that serious conditions like epilepsy, schizophrenia, or mood disorders like bipolar disorder don't run in your family and that you take care of yourself physically most of the time. A lot of it is propaganda, but that doesn't change the fact that drugs can have powerful effects and should be treated with respect.
Just exercise caution and intelligence and you will be fine.
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Robo
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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
#7537921 - 10/20/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I guarantee that if you do drugs, you will most likely die
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Visionary Tools



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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: AlCapwn]
#7538336 - 10/20/07 06:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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AlCapwn said: Weed kills brain cells, but so does beer. Or bumping your head. It won't cause you to be stupid.
Mushrooms and Acid, I don't know if they kill brain cells, but if they do it'd be in minimal amounts.
E is slightly worse for you. MDMA isn't THAT bad for you. It's actually relatively safe. It's just that most pills out there are cut with all sorts of shit that's bad for you. MDMA also damages serotonin receptors with heavy use, but they can repair themselves if it's not too bad. I'd still personally stay away from the shit, though.
Pot doesn't destroy any brain cells, if anything it builds them (but not like alcohol, which builds alcohol dependent brain cells). Mushrooms, acid, mescaline and DMT don't cause your brain to hemorrhage, but it will result in serotonin depletion, which is why Ayahausco's eat plenty of fish and banana's to supplement their depleted serotonin levels.
MDMA/XTC however, puts more strain on the body. It does give you energy, but does so by burning up the ATP in cells, so a hangover of sorts happens, causing lethargy.
The drugs to avoid are tobacco, opium and it's derivatives, alcohol, (meth)amphetamines and cocaine. All of those are physically addictive and can be overdosed on, with pretty nasty withdrawls.
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Bridgeburner
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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: Robo]
#7538343 - 10/20/07 06:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Adagio said: I guarantee that if you do drugs, you will most likely die
and not doing drugs will result in you living forever. remember that. jesus did. but then he chose drugs and you know, he was killed, nailed to the cross with his dirty heroin syringes.
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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: AlCapwn]
#7538473 - 10/20/07 08:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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drugs works really bad on my eyes, and weed on my brain
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EllisDSox
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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
#7538527 - 10/20/07 08:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Life in general kills brain cells. More or less everything you do kills a couple of brain cells, but it doesn't really have any detrimental effects to your health.
Of the drugs you listed, ecstasy would be the least benign, as it can mangle your brain's serotonin system if you take it too often. A little MDMA in moderation is pretty safe- pills are a different story, since they're cut with some variety of amphetamine almost all the time. Research hasn't given the world definitive answers about MDMA thus far, and there's a lot of media hype about negative side effects that may well not even exist. Still, having seen dozens of people ruin themselves by taking too much ecstasy, I can say you're a lot better off seriously moderating your intake.
With LSD and mushrooms you just need to be careful when and where you trip. Make sure everything in your life is ordered and to your liking before you trip, don't consume psychedelics too often and always focus on what you get out of the experience and apply to your life, rather than just getting caught up in endlessly tripping. There was some rather poorly done research in the 1960s suggesting LSD caused chromosome damage, but various more recent studies found that chromosome damage in users of LSD was either non-existent or on a par with the damage caused by aspirin. No neurological or physical damage is done to you by psychedelics consumed in any reasonable quantity, and probably not even when consumed in great excess.
Be intelligent, be respectful of your mind and of these drugs, do your research, and you'll be fine.
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Grill Master
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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7538616 - 10/20/07 09:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Time kills, not drugs.
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Cerebro
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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: Robo]
#7538628 - 10/20/07 09:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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What if your dead inside already? Seriously though we are dealing with chemicals/drugs which effect the nervous system. The organ that is involved in feelings; so please people do NOT base a drugs harmful effects solely on the way they make you feel. Otherwise Acid would be worst for your health than say I dunno morphine. Every-Body is different and I am a weirdo who seeks out different and strange substances to expression himself with.
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Ogla



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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: Cerebro]
#7538646 - 10/20/07 09:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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That was just like last night, some peeps were all telling me that acid is bad for you cause it sticks in your spinal chord. I just wish people would learn the facts and quit believing rumors. I think Cigarettes and alcohol is worse then then acid, to be honest
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Jair
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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: Ogla]
#7538673 - 10/20/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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losfreddy said: Cigarettes and alcohol is worse then then acid, to be honest
A million times worse.
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boxcarguy07
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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: Jair]
#7538866 - 10/20/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jair said:
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losfreddy said: Cigarettes and alcohol is worse then then acid, to be honest
A million times worse.
Yeah, not even a question.
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Ogla



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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#7538877 - 10/20/07 10:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Visionary Tools said:
The drugs to avoid are tobacco, opium and it's derivatives, alcohol, (meth)amphetamines and cocaine. All of those are physically addictive and can be overdosed on, with pretty nasty withdrawls.
I totatlly agree. When most people hear drugs, they think of all the ones as such and proclaim that you have a problem. They start thinking, addiction, depression, downfall. Some people just don't listen when you try to tell them that psychedelics are something completly different and are probably the safest thing you can do. There is so much you don't know until you try it. Of course, they never really listen and go on thinking such. All those millions on people in the 70's were onto something great. You get into stuff like Coke, meth Herion. Yes, those are bad. But acid, mushrooms are very diferrent. It is not 'Dope' like my friend keeps saying. You know if they took a couple hits they'd quit saying how bad drugs are and start saying 'say, i don't know. this stuff is different man'.
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Robo
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Re: How bad are drugs for your health, really? [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7539264 - 10/20/07 01:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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b0red5tiff said: and not doing drugs will result in you living forever. remember that. jesus did
Jesus? Oh boy....  Me and Jesus don't get along very well.
Edited by Adagio (10/20/07 01:14 PM)
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