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TheHauntingSoul
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Partway through my first grow...what have i done wrong so far?
#7536917 - 10/19/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey so i'd like to start off by explaining everything that i've done so far that i COULD NOT change the next time around, and hopefully someone can help me out as to how to do this the best way givin my current situations.
My family can't know about this so its a stealth grow which means: 1 - i have no PC and will not be able to get one 2 - My FC is in my suitcase in the bottom of my closet so there is little FAE and i couldnt leave the FC anywhere that isnt hidden.
Now that thats out of the way, here is exactly what i've done:
I aquired a syringe of spores labelled "psilocibe prodigy" and if anyone knows what the hell strain that could be, i would be very happy to know.
I sterilized the jars in a pot of boiling water by placing them on other jar lids and steaming for about an hour and a half.
I am following the pftek fairly tightly, using brf and verm for the cakes, with a dry layer on top. inoculation didnt go so well as the holes i made were too small so the lids had to be briefly removed. I flame sterilized the needle though, and through some act of god 6/6 jars ended up colonizing with no contam.
The jars were kept in a shoebox with a small reptile light that kept them slightly too hot so i had to constantly plug/unplug it. I then moved the jars into an empty paintball tub in the top of my closet, and as such there was no constant incubation but i figured it was better than overheating and constant temp flux's. Next time around i will CERTAINLY invest in creating the double tub water heater incubator dealy. The jars were kept at about 70-85 in the shoebox, and about 70-80 depending on house temp when in the paintball tub.
The cakes colonized painfully slowly, as i innoced august 21st and the first 2 cakes werent birthed until oct 14th. They had been fully colonized for 3-4 days prior, and i did a dunk and for some reason the verm didnt stick to the cakes as well as it should have, but there was some verm, which is good.
2/4 leftover cakes are fully colonized and i will be birthing them in a weeks time, and the other 2 still have a little way to go (ther at 95 and 80%)
The FC is a rubbermaid with a hole cut in the lid for the light to sit in. I used about 2 inches of moistened perlite in the bottom. I Fan the FC 2-3 times a day, and mist when humidity is low, however i have made the mistake of directly misting the cakes, and have handled them a few times to inspect for pinning. Also i dropped a fan in and clipped a tiny chunk off of one of the cakes at one point (fuck i'm an idiot). The cakes were put in the FC on monday, it is now friday night and still no signs of pinning.
So what i would like input in is: a - What the fuck is psilocybe prodigy? b - should i be exposing the fully colonized jars to light now that they are colonized to encourage pinning prior to birth? c - how long should i wait to birth the remaining cakes? (considering how long colonization took) d - is there any hope for the 2 cakes in the terrarium now? e - what else have i done wrong that i havent stated? any other input is greatly appreceated
Thank you kindly for reading my lengthy report, and i would very much appreceate any and all input.
That being said, please dont tell me not to grow because i live with my family, i have made the decision already and this is not helpful input into my method.
Thanks again for reading, hope you can help me out!
P.S. will post pics probably tomorrow, i just figured the info you had now was good enough at the moment.
Edited by TheHauntingSoul (10/19/07 07:45 PM)
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pazzy
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Re: Partway through my first grow...what have i done wrong so far? [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
#7536962 - 10/19/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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a) Where did you get the spores from? Some times people will take prints of a random strain and rename it themselves, which can cause situations like this.
b) If you are going to dunk you wipe pins off anyway.
c) Birth a cake 5-7 days after it appears to be fully colonized.
d) They should still pin. Stop handling them so much and keep humidity and air exchange high and there shouldn't be a problem.
e) Do not grow in some one elses house with out their permission. If the place you are growing gets raided for some reason they will be very very upset with you.
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TheHauntingSoul
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Re: Partway through my first grow...what have i done wrong so far? [Re: pazzy]
#7536982 - 10/19/07 08:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks alot for your input and also for the quick response.
I got the spores from a local headshop, next time i will order cubes or golden teachers online i think.
Also in response to that last comment i would not expect my house to ever get raided, although i guess everyone says that, but maybe the laws for that sort of thing are different in canada (but i doubt it).
Anyways i'm gunna sell them to one guy in a bulk sum and i'm giving him a huge discount so that he wont tell anyone who he got them from, buyers, dealers, cops. In the event that he gets caught he won't give my name under any circumstance. I'm really close friends with him and i know he wouldnt screw me over like that so i'm really not that worried but anything can happen. You think my plan is fairly solid?
Thanks again for your input, i will take your advice.
Edited by TheHauntingSoul (10/19/07 08:04 PM)
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pazzy
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Re: Partway through my first grow...what have i done wrong so far? [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
#7537075 - 10/19/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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When mushrooms are sold for profit they are sold to anyone with money to buy them. Inexperienced buyers can have such a bad trip that they end up in the hospital, and then are questioned by the police. If you trust your friend enough that you think he would not tell on you to shorten his jail time go ahead.
Dealing is frowned upon here so if you are going to do it don't speak of it.10+ years in prison can make friends stab you in the back.
My opinion - Don't deal.
P.S. I do not know how the Canadian government treats mushrooms and their production as I am from the United States.
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TheHauntingSoul
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Re: Partway through my first grow...what have i done wrong so far? [Re: pazzy]
#7537120 - 10/19/07 08:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i know that canada's laxer about drugs then the u.s. I think 6 years is the max for growing shrooms so trafficing would be alot less.
also, do you think it would be better risk-wise if i just kept the mushrooms and shared them with friends instead of selling them?
and i totally fear that scenario you told me, but i think we're going to come up with a story like my friend met some guy downtown who was asking random ppl if they wanted shrooms.
It doesnt sound believable but i've actually seen it more than once.
Edited by TheHauntingSoul (10/19/07 08:35 PM)
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pazzy
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Re: Partway through my first grow...what have i done wrong so far? [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
#7537191 - 10/19/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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The less strangers your deal with the less chance you will be caught. Sharing with friends is always a nice gesture, and keeps things interesting.
Also don't tell anyone even your best friend that you are growing. If you can not keep the secret your friend probably cant either. If you have already told people you were tell them it did not work.
Your friend would have to tell on some one who actually has a lot of mushrooms or is growing them to get a plea bargain. He could say it was some guy down town but loyalty changes when people face 6 years in prison.
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Re: Partway through my first grow...what have i done wrong so far? [Re: pazzy]
#7537325 - 10/19/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not only that but 6 jars aren't going to produce many mushrooms.Your not going to get rich off them.So is it really worth 6 years in prison for a couple of hundred bucks?Keep shrooms for yourself and close friends and DON'T LET THEM KNOW WERE YOU GOT THEM.You bought them as far as they know..gl
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Re: Partway through my first grow...what have i done wrong so far? [Re: nw_shroomy]
#7537564 - 10/19/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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the best bet for a stealth grow is myco bags! then crumble and case! i just harvested three trays containing an ounce each by doing this method.
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DigitalNomad
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Re: Partway through my first grow...what have i done wrong so far? [Re: zero cool]
#7537581 - 10/19/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are Schedule III in Canada I believe. Means if it's charged as an indictable offense you can get a maximum of 10 years for production/trafficking. It's something like 18 months if it's tried as a summary offense, which isn't bloody likely if you have any substanial amount.
As for a friend never ratting you out, no matter what, I highly suggest you look up "the prisoner's dilema."
On a side note, isn't it against forum rules to discuss dealing?
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Caribou_Lou
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Re: Partway through my first grow...what have i done wrong so far? [Re: DigitalNomad]
#7537609 - 10/19/07 11:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Selling mushrooms is pretty low profile I'd say
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Re: Partway through my first grow...what have i done wrong so far? [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#7538317 - 10/20/07 05:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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My advice to you is to never tell anybody what you're doing. As many here will testify, it doesn't matter how serious you take keeping a secret.. they do not have the level of concern. Even great friends will often tell other people. Believe me, so few are truly trustworthy. Its an epidemic.
I don't agree with dealing mushrooms either. Part of the slight difficulty of obtaining them keeps random idiots from making mistakes.
Especially don't grow for dealing in your parents house. That is an extremely selfish act. I can understand if you grow for some personal exploration, very little harm can come by you if you keep it low key.. don't go doing deals - its just not worth the extremely minor profit you might make.
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