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Jack Albertson
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Starting someone on a journey
#7534801 - 10/19/07 10:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lately Ive had a few people ask me about 2012 and things of that nature. None of these people are into psychedelics. The majority of things that i study look crazy in the eyes of someone that hasnt expanded their mind. How can i start with something simple that doesnt freak them out? It's hard for me to go backward.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Icelander
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Why the need to proselytize? Leave that to the Religious folk. Just live and be an example. Everything else is just small talk. You have no assurance that what you believe is the truth.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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remind them about the internet...seems like that's where most people are getting the grist for their journey mills.
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: Icelander]
#7535316 - 10/19/07 12:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Why the need to proselytize? Leave that to the Religious folk. Just live and be an example. Everything else is just small talk. You have no assurance that what you believe is the truth.
Youre right about that. But reality may not be true either.
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Clean said: remind them about the internet...seems like that's where most people are getting the grist for their journey mills.
That's a good answer, it's how i started.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Whatever you do, don't talk about fact based evidence, or the history of past prophecies. This would totally destroy the premise of the whole 2012 assumption.
Good luck.
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: psyka]
#7535673 - 10/19/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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psyka said: Whatever you do, don't talk about fact based evidence, or the history of past prophecies. This would totally destroy the premise of the whole 2012 assumption.
Good luck.

-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: psyka]
#7535678 - 10/19/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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What do you mean by fact based? Everything is based on fact, unless it's just completely made up.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Nobody needs to be brought into the 2012 trip. If people are interested in psychedelics, please point them to solid information. Stress SET AND SETTING. Try not to speculate too heavily about things you yourself have not experienced.
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How do you know something very specific is going to happen in 2012?
Pretend I'm one of these people you're trying to persuade. Tell me what you know to be true.
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: psyka]
#7535764 - 10/19/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, I know that 2012 follows 2011 and that some catastrophe will befall some group of humans that year and that I will be a lot grayer (read: more distinguished-looking)...
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I predict that more than 56 million people will die in 2012!
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: Veritas]
#7535782 - 10/19/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You perfected your death ray or that's how many men you will sleep with that year?
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You cant deny the astrology. But other than that nothing is fact.
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I can easily deny the astrology. In fact, I just did!
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I only kill them if I'm hungry afterward.
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: Veritas]
#7535938 - 10/19/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am taking you to a buffet beforehand.
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what? of course you can deny whatever you want, but that doesnt make it so. I want to go to a smorgasbord
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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ts,
what is happening in 2012? this is the first I have heard of this.
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said: You perfected your death ray or that's how many men you will sleep with that year?
56 million die every year now.
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: Veritas]
#7536154 - 10/19/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wonder if Bush fufilled his quota...
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: fireworks_god]
#7536156 - 10/19/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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He is working for God, you know. As was Hitler. If it wasn't for mass-murderers, God would have to come up with new diseases. Delegate, man, delegate!
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: Veritas]
#7536199 - 10/19/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are you proposing that war is the purging fire?
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: fireworks_god]
#7536384 - 10/19/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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everyone is gonna have AIDS!
-------------------- The best way to live is to be like water For water benefits all things and goes against none of them It provides for all people and even cleanses those places a man is loath to go In this way it is just like Tao ~Daodejing
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: mushroomplume]
#7536446 - 10/19/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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oliveplume said: ts,
what is happening in 2012? this is the first I have heard of this.
Well the mayans long predicted that on dec 21st 2012 the mexicans will storm the gates irritating and confusing thousands of innocent americans.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Sounds like 2012 is a blessing then.... nachos and tacos for all!
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: fireworks_god]
#7536816 - 10/19/07 07:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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can't beat that galactic center sauce... goes good with a burrito & horchata
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Quote:
ts727 said:
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oliveplume said: ts,
what is happening in 2012? this is the first I have heard of this.
Well the mayans long predicted that on dec 21st 2012 the mexicans will storm the gates irritating and confusing thousands of innocent americans.
Americans are irritated and confused already, so I think that the Mayan's math may have been a tad off. Perhaps they forgot to correct for the effects of global warming?
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: Veritas]
#7536948 - 10/19/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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the underestimated el nino.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Veritas


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Yes, children are so unpredictable.
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Quote:
ts727 said: the underestimated el nino.
hehe yaaayy
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Starting someone on a journey
Don't tell them anything. Find a good setting. Determine that they have a rational set. Then give them a decent dose of LSD.
This works every time. (one way or another)
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: Icelander]
#7539005 - 10/20/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Who will give me a decent dose of LSD?
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It would take so much to get you high that the state of Nevada can't produce it.
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: Icelander]
#7539079 - 10/20/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think 2012 will be just like any other year, it will have ups and down just like normal. The people getting worried about this are probably the same group who got their panties in a bunch over Y2K...
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Re: Starting someone on a journey [Re: opensaysme]
#7539085 - 10/20/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I scored so much cool Y2K shit at garage sales for pennies on the dollar. Maybe we can find a way to make out on this 2012 thingy as well.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (10/20/07 12:09 PM)
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