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Unusual UK active! Please help to identify....
    #7534746 - 10/19/07 10:13 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

OK,
In my normal lib patch I stumbled across some unusual actives. I've never seen them before so any help IDing them would be great.

Location: Upland, nutrient poor, acidic grassland. Typical 'lib' territory. Growing close to clumps of juncus.

Size: cap 2-4cm, stem 4-7

Cap: convex, flattening with age and becoming 'wavy' like typical cyans. Nipple present. color off-white/buff/tan (darker in the center), staining strongly blue. Pellicule easily peels off.

Stalk: fibrous, dose not snap clean, medium, white staining a very strong blue. Ring(or veil remnant), present but not distinct. Stained chocolate-brown possibly from spore deposit.

Gills: detached. Pink/brown (typically mushroomy). Spore print to follow.

Smell: hint of aniseed?

Anyone got any ideas? Photos are below.

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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: epilobium]
    #7534857 - 10/19/07 10:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Are you sure they are active, or could they be one of those blue Stropharia's?

They just look kind of uniformly blue in the pictures, but I would expect them to get much bluer where they have been bumped or broken.


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: epilobium]
    #7534863 - 10/19/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

those are not active unfortunately. They are stropharia aeruginosa. I've already been through the same thing as you. They start out a brilliant slimey blue color and as they mature the sun dries them and turn a pallid yellow color. The stems stay blue though. They are inactive as far as anyone on here is concerned. I fried a couple up and ate them. Tasted pretty good.


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: akb112211]
    #7534867 - 10/19/07 10:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

wow those are pretty convincing...


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: akb112211]
    #7534872 - 10/19/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

one more note...also, you will notice they are blue exactly where something(debris) has covered them. The discoloring could have something to to with oxidation or bleaching by the sun.


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: akb112211]
    #7535042 - 10/19/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well, those DEFINITELY NOT Stropharia aeruginosa.
They are Ps. Cyanescens for SURE! When Cyans get dry they turn yellow as visible above...

I hope you didn't throw them away for they ARE actives!


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: Fahkface]
    #7535054 - 10/19/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

El zorro is VERY right. The bluing on those spcimens is more of a psilocybian bruising. Those look dead on like Psilocybe Cyanescens. Theyve been popping up in England recently. one of the most powerful species you can find ive been told.


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7535077 - 10/19/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

they dont look like any stroph iv seen
look like cyans but thats just me. get better pics. gills and stipe look like cyan to me


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: notapillow]
    #7535088 - 10/19/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

if you can get a spore print youll be safe.


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7535124 - 10/19/07 12:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ahm, no, Cyans actually aren't the most powerful species you can find. They truly ARE powerful, but Ps. Azurescens is the most powerful mushroom out there. Ps. Subaeruginosa and Copelandia Cyanescens are more more powerful as well... Nevertheless, Cyans are potent as hell :stoned:


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: Fahkface]
    #7535142 - 10/19/07 12:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well he did say, one of the most potent.
still cyans are my favs. never gotten to try azuies


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: notapillow]
    #7535166 - 10/19/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

notapillow said:
well he did say, one of the most potent.
still cyans are my favs. never gotten to try azuies




Yup, sorry! Didn't read that :smile:
You're right! ONE of the most potent :wink:


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: Fahkface]
    #7535208 - 10/19/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thoes look alot like P. Cyanescence

take a spore print


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: elflord420]
    #7535625 - 10/19/07 01:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Good stuff good stuff. Keep it up ladies and gentlemen!

I believe the world is becoming more habitable for psilocybian mushrooms. very slowly, year by year but yes...


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7535672 - 10/19/07 02:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i think there are more people hunting them in every corner of the world and thence finding more :grin:


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: canid]
    #7535690 - 10/19/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

quite possible too! data technology today makes us able to share our finds much more easily.


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7535724 - 10/19/07 02:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

They don't look like S. aeruginosa to me either. 

They look very different from the Ps. cyanescens in California as well.
They are definitely active Psilocybe, and likely Ps. cyanescnes, though they are definitely a very different strain from the Wavy Caps in California.

Nice find.  :smile:


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: CureCat]
    #7535803 - 10/19/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

wow I found the Exact same ones in a field by my house noticed they were blue but did not pick them because I was told only Libs grow in newfoundland. I think UK and newfoundland get much the same climate so maybe it is of the same genus. Be cool to find out what this was.


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: GbBaker]
    #7536359 - 10/19/07 05:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i was not aware of cyans on the east coast. if you find some, please post some pics. i would love to see that!


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Re: Unusual UK active! Please help to identify.... [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7536508 - 10/19/07 05:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

certainly not the typical cyans one sees around the shroomery, but p. cyanescens non the less...
they were found in a field? no wood about?

great find!


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