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Raoul Duke
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#7534742 - 10/19/07 10:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok i was thinking today that the theory that everything has existed forever is sort of flawed. Let me explain that theory a little better so that we don't get confused with what i am talking about. Its real simple, everything that has been on this earth, galaxy, and universe has all ways been. along with time. Now I am not saying that your computer has always been but the material its made out of and the materials that the materials were made out of have always been. But here is my problem with that is, if every thing is made from the basic materials of everything, wouldn't there be a limit on such materials? There could not be an endless supply of it because wouldn't that require creation of those materials? and since physics tells us matter can not be created nor destroyed, there has to be a limit or some number of material. What do you think?
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yeah we are inside of a bubble on the inside of another larger bubble and so on
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Re: question ? [Re: ZShroom]
#7534761 - 10/19/07 10:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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the cool thing to think about is how small things can be and how big things can be
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Re: question ? [Re: ZShroom]
#7534763 - 10/19/07 10:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think it's actually energy that cannot be created or destroyed. The amount of available energy in the known Universe seems staggering beyond comprehension.
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In regards to the actual question, it seems pretty plausible to me. Why can't everything constantly be recycling itself? Maybe time recycles itself too, who knows?
You rot, maggots eat you, maggots rot in soil, seed takes up nutrients from soil, seed becomes flower, bee takes pollen from flower, germinates another flower, caterpillar eats flower, and eventually you become a butterfly!
Isn't that cute?! One day you will be a butterfly.
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There isnt a single molecule of your body that hasnt been forged in the furnace of the sun...Now isnt that neat?
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Is this for real? I mean, is this a real photograph, not manipulated in any way? Because it's friggin beautiful!
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Re: question ? [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7536777 - 10/19/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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all real mister
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is there any reason this thread got stickied?
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since physics tells us matter can not be created nor destroyed
Icelander is correct. Physics tells us no such thing. ENERGY can not be created nor destroyed.
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Just take some (other) energy out of the system to create some more matter
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Quote:
oliveplume said: all real mister
She not he.
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Re: question ? [Re: Veritas]
#7538891 - 10/20/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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since physics tells us matter can not be created nor destroyed
Icelander is correct. Physics tells us no such thing. ENERGY can not be created nor destroyed.
you need protein
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What cannot matter be created from? Energy? ...
Well. See? Matter, can create more matter.. From matter...
Ever heard of duplication? Cell dividing? Etcetera..?
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Re: question ? [Re: Gomp]
#7551014 - 10/23/07 02:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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often the idea of creation is dualistic, with the assumption of creator vs created. realizations, however, point to a yin-yang fractal seething moebius process - a unity that stretches accross what we call time but which actually interlaces so tightly with time that there is no separation.
conceptually the best approximation is vibrating subatomic strings, and fractal integration at all scales.
the process of mind - association and matrioska (russian dolls) parallels the process of matter and of ongoing creation itself.
these thoughts are not like engineering, or magic, they are just pointers at the wonder of the universe, and adding nothing to what is.
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They still add up..
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